# NEW YORK | 8 Carlisle St (111 Washington St) | 789 FT | 64 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Under Construction\ **Created:** [June 14, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225 "2014-06-14T03:14:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/1 "2014-06-14T03:14:12Z")
Continuing the discussion from [NEW YORK | World Trade Center District](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-world-trade-center-1-776-ft-1-373-ft-94-floors/29): ## **[111 Washington Street, New York, NY 10006](http://www.masseyknakal.com/listings/detail.aspx?lst=22748)** > **Property Description** > The subject property is an approximately 362,300 square foot development site located on the corner of Washington and Carlisle Streets in the heart of Lower Manhattan. 111 Washington Street represents an ideal development opportunity with 137’ of frontage on Washington Street and 98’ of frontage on Carlisle Street. > The site features a lot area of approximately 11,206 square feet. Due to the air-rights that have been acquired from several adjacent parcels the total buildable square footage is calculated based on a combined lot area of approximately 28,021 square feet. The flexible C6-9 zoning designation allows for residential, hotel, retail and office development. Additionally, the site has no height restriction therefore a future development will be able to capitalize on expansive harbor and city views. The total development site consists of the parcels located at 111 and 105 Washington Street and air-rights from 109 Washington Street along with 102-104, 106, and 108 Greenwich Street. > The Lower Manhattan sub-market has reemerged as one of the most sought after areas of the city due to a multitude of recent developments. The redevelopment of One World Trade Center and creation of the new Fulton Street Transit Hub along with Brookfield Place will positively impact future commercial, retail, and hospitality progression. Tourism growth has reached new levels in Lower Manhattan and is only expected to increase as additional developments reach completion in the coming years. > Furthermore, the property is easily accessible through public transportation. The 1 and R trains are located two blocks south on the corner of Rector Street and Greenwich Street. Additionally, the 4 and 5 trains are just 4 blocks to the east on Wall Street. The development site at 111 Washington Street presents the chance to make a lasting impression on the New York City skyline in a flourishing section of Downtown Manhattan just two blocks south of the World Trade Center. **Massing:** ---
**Author:** ![Aviemore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Aviemore](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Aviemore)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/2 "2014-12-16T03:12:09Z")
## [Pink Stone moving ahead with 51-story FiDi tower](http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/12/12/pink-stone-plans-51-story-fidi-tower/) By Rich Bockmann on December 12, 2014 05:07PM ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/4/14c002c0ed486ab2b37cf6f92b15828e5ef9b720.jpeg) _From left: A rendering of 111 Washington Street, Richard Ohebshalom and the development site_ > Richard Ohebshalom’s Pink Stone Capital is moving along with a 51-story, 429-unit tower in the Financial District that seems destined to be a residential rental building, according an application filed today with the Department of Buildings. > The Midtown-based developer, which purchased a distressed note in 2011 to acquire the development site at 111 Washington Street, will build a 306-foot, mixed-use tower. At the time, the tower was expected to be 54 stories tall, as The Real Deal reported. The application shows the 334,107-square-foot tower will house three floors of retail and 429 units. > Gary Handel is the architect of record. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/3 "2015-12-18T16:36:17Z")
A NB permit was filed The lot is presently vacant. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/9/96cac43ce2337ddc6a53b648a819b82cfb4e53b6.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![lowkeylion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/lowkeylion/32/1239_2.png) [@lowkeylion](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/lowkeylion)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/4 "2015-12-17T14:17:05Z")
I’ll take it. More towers for Lower Manhattan! ---
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/5 "2015-12-18T16:34:50Z")
[http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=5&passjobnumber=121192299&passdocnumber=01](http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=5&passjobnumber=121192299&passdocnumber=01) ---
**Author:** ![nyc1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@nyc1](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/nyc1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/6 "2016-11-04T23:24:17Z")
Nothing new 11/04/16 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/6/60c343fdff06adfc71d9d6dc6a82d04bcb68c569.JPG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/0/0ee5ec017ac8b781c4a74cb1900fe29b85ace2b8.JPG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/4/426a40d1b155f904fa9a9dab2c645c87d4f7d4f6.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/7 "2017-03-11T00:00:33Z")
> **[Little Syria Skyscraper Site Wants $170 Million to Catch its Big Break](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/little-syria-skyscraper-site-wants-170-million-catch-big-break/8187)** > > http://cms.cityrealty.com/marketinsight/article-edit?id=8187 ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/8 "2017-03-17T19:04:37Z")
I didn’t know that this site had over 360,000 sf in air rights. A Chinese developer could build a 1,000’ tower here!! > **[111 Washington Street | Richard Ohebshalom | Fred Ohebshalom](https://therealdeal.com/2017/03/17/son-vs-father-richard-ohebshalom-sues-fred-over-111-washington-deal/)** > > For years, plans to develop 111 Washington started and stopped. Now, Richard Ohebshalom is suing his father for trying to push through the sale of the property. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/9 "2017-04-18T18:56:07Z")
> **[Wanna Buy a Vacant Lot? - eBroadsheet](https://www.ebroadsheet.com/wanna-buy-vacant-lot/)** > > An empty lot at the southeast corner of Washington and Carlisle Streets, behind the W Hotel, is being shopped for sale at $260 million. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/10 "2017-07-31T18:07:57Z")
“To the south, the vacant lot at 111 Washington is returning to its natural state. Too bad it can’t be opened to the public as a temporary park or dog run.” ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/7/672ff2c53624ccb6a4c03d1ba415274de9d96829.jpg) > **[Tribeca Citizen | Seen & Heard: Vape Shop Opening on Church Street](https://tribecacitizen.com/2017/07/28/seen-heard-vape-shop-opening-on-church-street/)** > > Plus: Wichcraft’s BLT is back; the “Sphere” sculpture has been packed up for its move; temporary Muji store; new street south of Liberty Park; vacant lot in FiDi inspires dreams of a park; “Law & Order: SVU.” ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/11 "2020-08-21T14:10:14Z")
> **[Ohebshalom's Pink Stone Capital’s 111, 105 Washington Lands Financing](https://therealdeal.com/2020/08/21/fidi-development-site-freed-of-legal-shackles-quietly-hits-market/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=widget&utm_campaign=feature_posts)** > > Richard Ohebshalom’s Pink Stone Capital scored $87 million in financing for two Washington Street properties, in part to settle a long-running family dispute. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/12 "2022-02-15T00:37:58Z")
There was a NB application filed in October of 2021. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/d/cd59bae49b1ecb1de8fb41f0d097dd8504336235.jpeg) [https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=121192299&passdocnumber=07](https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=121192299&passdocnumber=07) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/13 "2022-07-28T12:11:25Z")
Has anyone been by here lately? > **[Out-of-towner buys $89M FiDi development site; plans 400-unit apartment tower...](https://rew-online.com/out-of-towner-buys-89m-fidi-development-site-plans-400-unit-apartment-tower/)** > > Grubb Fund also goes to contract on LIC site for second affordable apartment development ![marcusrendering](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/7/5765c1821f7c1c3f245a01c4778e92cd552482bc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/14 "2022-07-28T12:42:46Z")
Street view imagery from earlier this month shows that the forest that was growing on the lot was trimmed down/back, but there’s still vegetation, nothing’s been cleared, so it’s evident this project is in limbo atm, but there hasn’t been any new news pertaining to the site since that information from last September came out. Not any new documents on ACRIS either. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/15 "2022-07-28T12:50:56Z")
Thanks. I doubt that the property will be sold. It was bought by a southern company that wants to prove that they can make it in NY. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/16 "2022-09-13T03:27:13Z")
Interestingly, Pinkstone and Grubb are developing this jointly. [https://pinkstonecapital.com/project/111-washington/](https://pinkstonecapital.com/project/111-washington/) Other sites say that Pinkstone no longer has any interest though. ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/17 "2022-09-13T08:06:23Z")
I haven’t particularly seen any news articles that mentioned Pinkstone not having interest, I just understand there was a fuss between the father and son who owned the site. Otherwise there still isn’t anything new since the September 2021 releases. But I wouldn’t say that Pinkstone and Grubb being partners is new news since that was established in August of 2021. Grubbs bought the site from Pinkstone, but they remained involved as a partner. It’s also hard to tell if the renders are updated/recent or not because they look the same as the old renders. I find it funny that the model they are using is “updated” but the Deutsche Bank Building is still there. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/18 "2023-02-01T16:45:45Z")
NB application from Aug of 2022. Like Pinkstone’s website, Grubb’s website also describes Pinkstone’s continuing role in this project. [https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=121192299&passdocnumber=09](https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=121192299&passdocnumber=09) ---
**Author:** ![Jaydayvis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@Jaydayvis](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Jaydayvis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/19 "2023-03-31T20:13:52Z")
**This development, a 54-story tower, will soon make its way to the NYC skyline. New update from today - the brownfield cleanup has ended, and construction will be beginning soon.** > **[New 50-Story Affordable Housing Tower to Rise After Brownfield Cleanup Ends](https://www.otdowntown.com/news/new-50-story-affordable-housing-tower-to-rise-after-brownfield-cleanup-ends-BH2458254)** > > A new 50-story, 400-unit affordable housing development is a step closer to reality now that the cleanup of a brownfield site has begun with plans to ... - Alternate rendering ![IMG_6299](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/5/e55e764432c165e13f53ba58f0ffcbb900a073d0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jaydayvis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@Jaydayvis](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Jaydayvis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-8-carlisle-st-111-washington-st-789-ft-64-floors/225/20 "2023-03-31T20:21:25Z")
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