# NEW YORK | 77 West 66th Street - ABC Development | 1198 - 420 FT| 86 + 25 FLOORS

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**Category:** Proposed\
**Created:** [July 6, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422 "2018-07-06T18:33:26Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/125 "2025-12-30T19:05:56Z")

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> [@TKDV](#):
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> 50 W 66th St had a height dispute (other than people not wanting it to be so tall) because it was inside the Special Lincoln Square District which does have height limitations.

My remark about 50 W 66th was a bit vague when I used the term FAR regard the height dispute. I was thinking specifically on the issue of the claim that the mechanical floors were said to have “excessive ceiling heights” that were used as a means of making the building taller. I believe the claim was found to have merit and as a result the building codes regarding the ‘ceiling heights’ for mechanical floors have been limited. I am going on my general recollection on some of those issues with the allowable floor height for ‘mechanical floors’ . I do know the mechanical floors are not calculate in FAR ; so my comment about FAR in connection with 50 W 66th street was not exactly the ‘issue’ I was trying to reference - it was the ‘mechanical floor’ dispute that I was thinking about in that case.

I will try to bet back on-topic with 77 W 66th. 🙄  
**Good to hear about the AOR details for 77 West 66th - thanks.**

_BTW. Here is a good link to the other thread were they referred to this as “massive mechanical voids” used only to elevate the height/views of the penthouse apartments._ **They were considered to be “loopholes” in the zoning laws - but not outright violations.**

> [@NEW YORK | 50 West 66th St | 775 FT | 70 FLOORS](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-50-west-66th-st-775-ft-70-floors/4068/62):
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> More bs. = = = = = = [Neighbors sue to block Extell’s UWS tower after city OKs amended plans](https://therealdeal.com/2019/04/25/neighbors-sue-to-block-extells-uws-tower-after-city-oks-amended-plans/) The back-and-forth over Extell Development’s 770-foot Upper West Side tower is now headed to court. Weeks after the Department of Buildings renewed permits for the development at 50 West 66th Street, the City Club of New York — which nearly killed Barry Diller’s Pier 55 project— and several of the project’s neighbors have filed a lawsuit against the developer, seeking to halt construction due to alle…

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/126 "2026-01-08T21:11:16Z")

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Demolition very active here and at 47 W 66th next door (separate development but no thread)

 ![IMG_3153](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/8/784dbb3e80de91ceaf336468affcba6d814ee007.jpeg)  
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[https://newyorkyimby.com/2025/11/permits-filed-for-37-west-66th-street-on-manhattans-upper-west-side.html](https://newyorkyimby.com/2025/11/permits-filed-for-37-west-66th-street-on-manhattans-upper-west-side.html)

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/127 "2026-01-09T14:34:44Z")

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So much history in the corner building, not that it warranted landmarking. Peter Jennings stayed on the air here for 24 hours on 9/11.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/128 "2026-01-20T19:30:50Z")

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[![](https://i.imgur.com/azmbYFs_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand) ](https://i.imgur.com/azmbYFs_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand)

[obemearg SSP](https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10541266&postcount=230)

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/129 "2026-01-20T19:45:00Z")

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This demo has opened up a nice vista onto 50 W 66th Street from Columbus Ave.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/130 "2026-01-20T21:30:33Z")

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[https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2026/01/15/extell-nyc-disney-abc-campus-manhattan-30-67th-st.html](https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2026/01/15/extell-nyc-disney-abc-campus-manhattan-30-67th-st.html)

> Extell Development is looking to kick off work on a residential building it’s planning for the former ABC/Disney campus on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.
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> New York City’s Landmarks Preservation Commission on Jan. 13 approved demolition plans to make way for a nine-story residential development at 26–30 W. 67th St. in the Central Park West Historic District.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/131 "2026-01-29T16:07:09Z")

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![66B](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/3/8323edb2599b5e68886e1383e3dc962e957f38b4.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/132 "2026-02-18T20:09:46Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/6/5682217cbaea7772ef0e9aedc266488021a14840.jpeg)

> The wrecking crew has turned their focus to 47 West 66th St., aka the “Barbara Walters Building,” reduced now to about 6 stories. The once adjoined 30 W 67th, which was built first, can now be seen standing alone behind the site.

> **[Eyesofageneration.com Group | Former ABC Campus Demolition Update: | Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/groups/1425282661005351/posts/3111729262360674/)**
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> Former ABC Campus Demolition Update:
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> The wrecking crew has turned their focus to 47 West 66th St., aka the "Barbara Walters Building," reduced now to about 6 stories. The once adjoined 30 W 67th,...

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/133 "2026-02-26T00:48:48Z")

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The next supertall

Per [https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10559582&postcount=238](https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10559582&postcount=238)

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 12:52am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/134 "2026-02-26T00:52:26Z")

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A building taller than 2 wtc on the upper west side lol

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/135 "2026-02-26T00:53:57Z")

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Age of Ramses

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 1:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/136 "2026-02-26T01:11:19Z")

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There could be like 5 buildings taller than 2 WTC all rising at the same time in a couple years

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/137 "2026-02-26T03:49:06Z")

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UWS NIMBY’s worst nightmare.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/138 "2026-02-26T19:33:32Z")

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Not so sure there will be lots of UWS noise about this building. Most controversies arise north of 72nd Street. Remember that there already lots of pretty tall buildings between 59th and 72nd. It’s a dense area with lots of people living in big apartment buildings who probably won’t complain about another big structure. Many of the town house rows between Broadway and Central Park West north of 67th are already surrounded with tall buildings on the avenues.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/139 "2026-02-27T15:01:34Z")

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Right. There wasn’t much complaining about the Time Warner center.

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Forget it Jake, it’s Lincoln Square.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-77-west-66th-street-abc-development-1198-420-ft-86-25-floors/4422/142 "2026-04-09T13:37:23Z")

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That subway station gets super crowded during morning rush.

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Building permits were filed for the supertall

 ![IMG3576](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/f/ff08da0c89d24067ce20677b6df19105872c6a25.jpeg)  
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Credit to NYguy on Skyscraperpage

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Bring on the renderings!

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