# NEW YORK | 5Pointz Towers (22-44 Jackson Ave) | 498 + 440 FT | 48 + 41 FLOORS

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**Category:** Completed\
**Created:** [June 14, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246 "2014-06-14T14:53:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/141 "2019-10-16T04:49:55Z")

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I feel like one of the interview questions for anybody working in the Citi tower should be: Do you like skylines and skyscrapers? …

If they say yes, they will definitely not be getting an office facing West towards Midtown. Productivity would be low, due to constantly staring at the epic skyline, especially if the employee is into urban things to begin with like us over here.

I feel bad for tenants in other parts of the city that have an office view that is a brick wall. Those do exist. The top floor tenants for 1 Vandy are going to be in for a treat.

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**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/142 "2019-10-16T12:05:26Z")

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I do look at many of these buildings, in person, as I travel the city. I and am amazed how photographic images can automatically ‘airbrush’ or otherwise sanitize the look of these buildings: all the subtle defects, and imperfections in appearance are minimized. So, yes - if you want to see how bad this building looks, or how shoddy the construction craftwork, you will need to take the 7 train and see for yourself. Models, renderings and photographs are great: but seeing these buildings ‘in-person’ tells the whole story.

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/143 "2019-10-16T23:59:18Z")

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I work in a similar tower in downtown Brooklyn. My portion of the office faces the Verrazano Bridge and Staten Island. It’s actually a great view but not as distracting. I walk past our western facing part of the floor at least a few times a day to drool at the skyline. We can see everything from FiDi through Midtown. Thankfully our kitchen is located on that side so I don’t look crazy constantly going over there 🙂

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**Author:** ![tone99loc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tone99loc/32/18833_2.png) [@tone99loc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tone99loc)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/144 "2019-10-17T00:49:52Z")

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I used to work on one the top floors in 4 Metrotech. That building has gigantic floor plates and I was 30 feet from a window (facing east into Bed Stuy/Glendale/points beyond) so that was the bad view…But the views of Manhattan on the other side of the building were something else! I regret not taking pictures; I was jealous of the people who had the sick view (I never saw any of them ever even looking out the window, sad!)

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/145 "2019-10-19T04:00:07Z")

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**Author:** ![Skyalign](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/skyalign/32/128133_2.png) [@Skyalign](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Skyalign)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/146 "2019-11-04T00:26:36Z")

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Earlier today

 ![IMG_20191103_152226](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/f/ff9380b2224ac9e175ea3b0bf8d3aa10becb561a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/147 "2019-11-29T21:47:26Z")

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11.23.19:

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**Author:** ![tone99loc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tone99loc/32/18833_2.png) [@tone99loc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tone99loc)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/148 "2019-11-29T22:37:34Z")

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So true, on the 7 train this building really looks like crap. Made me think this building will have leaks when it rains due to the shoddiness that’s so evident. From a distance these buildings are acceptable filler IMO so it could be worse. Funny how 5pointz was so colorful and eye-catching before and these structures are about as boring as it gets

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/149 "2020-02-07T02:59:04Z")

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Taken 2.2.20:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/a/ba3816eede13c25ac0f029e50961694811058dcc.jpeg)](https://flic.kr/p/2iq3GGM)

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/6/d6e7409b5424608d84849bf662ee5f108e04290d.jpeg)](https://flic.kr/p/2iq6hjA)

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**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/150 "2020-02-07T11:56:18Z")

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Bland. Bring back the street art!

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**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/151 "2020-02-23T19:24:37Z")

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New York, New York. Shutting down nuclear plants, expunging Amazon, chopping the height of DOB approved towers, forcing developers to dish out millions of the supposed value for “street art” I could mention some other subjects but they aren’t related to development. Sometimes it’s a wonder why this city still has the status it does. This may be pocket change for a developer, but I get a bad feeling from how much prodding state officials have been doing lately.

> **[5Pointz graffiti has now made an indelible mark on the law and art](https://qz.com/1806323/5pointz-graffiti-has-officially-made-a-lasting-mark-on-the-law/)**
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> An appeals court affirmed that a real estate developer must pay $6.75 million in damages for the willful destruction of 45 works of graffiti in Long Island City, Queens.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/152 "2020-03-28T13:56:50Z")

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> **[Work Wrapping Up at 22-44 Jackson Avenue in Long Island City, Queens - New...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2020/03/work-wrapping-up-at-22-44-jackson-avenue-in-long-island-city-queens.html)**
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> Work is wrapping up at 22-44 Jackson Avenue, a 1,115-unit, two-tower complex designed by HTO Architects and developed by G&M Realty in Long Island City.

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/153 "2020-04-10T20:14:23Z")

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From 3.1.20:

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/154 "2020-04-12T01:19:05Z")

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[![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/2/92fc7e833c3ebe851a3cc4e3197ff2fcb63ddfac.jpeg "r\_200409\_066\_beat033\_a") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mitchwaxman/49754857808/)

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/155 "2020-04-12T02:16:55Z")

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Is this from a phone or DSLR? If it’s a phone, it’s got a great night time mode.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/156 "2020-04-12T03:13:22Z")

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this is from the Newtown Pentacle (Mitch Waxman) flickr account. I think he has a professional-grade camera.

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**Author:** ![Falco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/falco/32/20750_2.png) [@Falco](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Falco)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/157 "2020-04-12T13:27:38Z")

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I think these would not look so bad without the glassy penthouses on top

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**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/158 "2020-04-12T14:00:48Z")

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Without the glassy top it would be mundane rather than unattractive. A lousy design replaces an exciting world famous outdoor artist heaven. Too bad.

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/159 "2020-04-12T16:41:53Z")

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It’s funny I think the opposite. I imagine they would look worse without them. Or like @chused mentioned, even more boring.

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**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/160 "2020-04-12T17:16:55Z")

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Aesthetic tastes vary—and glad they do. But I think we agree this is not a good architecture product in either case.

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