# NEW YORK | 5Pointz Towers (22-44 Jackson Ave) | 498 + 440 FT | 48 + 41 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [June 14, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246 "2014-06-14T14:53:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Falco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/falco/32/20750_2.png) [@Falco](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Falco)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/101 "2018-07-09T00:40:00Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/2/222cfc99a7089eca4b664378310d7b58f94380a4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/102 "2018-07-09T01:00:37Z")
this is a nice break from the glassy trend in LIC ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/103 "2018-07-09T01:11:20Z")
Maybe a nice break, but a pretty boring one at that. I like all kinds of architecture, but this doesn’t make it very high on any scale for me. ---
**Author:** ![Tectonic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tectonic/32/186763_2.png) [@Tectonic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tectonic)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/104 "2018-07-09T12:59:54Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/2/a27d8a8b68890ec688b3870318913a03c3ca1705.jpeg) Tec ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/105 "2018-07-20T23:06:37Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/1/21c7f5e15f47aeb70947fff30720a462c3f5d39f.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/a/ba8e414f630ba8771886535b442582d66962c3a9.jpeg) Credit:[LICCourt](http://liccourtsquare.com/2018/07/19/facade-work-halfway-done-at-west-tower-of-22-24-jackson-avenue-former-home-of-5pointz/) ---
**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/106 "2018-07-21T15:36:37Z")
Man these things are ugly. ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/107 "2018-07-22T14:33:20Z")
The aerosol art scene that used to be there was much more interesting and often quite attractive. Too bad it’s gone. But Wolkoff, the primary owner of the development, will make a lot more money than the 6.75 million he was told to pay the painters by the federal court in Brooklyn. ---
**Author:** ![Tectonic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tectonic/32/186763_2.png) [@Tectonic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tectonic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/108 "2018-07-22T17:26:56Z")
I feel like this was a missed opportunity. They could have integrated the art into a new project. ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/109 "2018-07-22T17:33:45Z")
Agreed. It would have cost Wolkoff more to do some preservation work but the city would have been much better off. Too bad the area’s art was too young to qualify for historic preservation. ---
**Author:** ![Tectonic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tectonic/32/186763_2.png) [@Tectonic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tectonic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/110 "2018-07-22T17:57:47Z")
It would have been easier to market than these bland towers. ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/111 "2018-07-22T18:19:54Z")
Probably right. The place had become internationally famous as a wall art site; painters from all over the world worked their under the auspices of a kind of collective organization. I suspect cachet would have attached to the continued presence of the art and space for them to work. But as the copyright/moral right trial unfolded over the last few years, it became clear that there was no love lost between Wolfkoff and the painters he had allowed to work at 5Pointz for over twenty years. I don’t think he was in the mood to give them either continued credence by preserving the extant work or future space to paint. ---
**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/112 "2018-08-06T00:42:53Z")
I hate having them in the same frame as the ESB but sunset was cool today. Bleh. ![IMG_1898](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/e/ee6d1b2ef9feb82b0d1ac3edc66c37014d9fc803.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/113 "2018-08-18T00:43:10Z")
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**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/114 "2018-08-31T13:05:48Z")
Yesterday ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/6/f62fec42d5cc4cb48bc27cd4b7fc38541243a558.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Tectonic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tectonic/32/186763_2.png) [@Tectonic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tectonic)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/115 "2018-09-09T21:31:47Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/8/28dbf0d08f338346cc815e662d4d95fc9b4bb1bb.jpeg) Tec ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/116 "2018-09-25T17:54:59Z")
as expected. > **[5Pointz Developers Appeal $6.75M Judgement for Whitewashing Graffiti](https://commercialobserver.com/2018/09/5pointz-developers-file-appeal-over-6-75m-judgement-for-whitewashing-graffiti/)** > > Gerald and David Wolkoff filed an appeal to the judge's $6.8 million judgment for painting over graffiti artists' work at 5Pointz. ---
**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/117 "2018-10-01T17:26:17Z")
From Sunday: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/0/60f6afeaef4d90163b73da447017bda3e9ccbe6d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Falco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/falco/32/20750_2.png) [@Falco](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Falco)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/118 "2018-10-01T23:03:24Z")
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**Author:** ![Tectonic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tectonic/32/186763_2.png) [@Tectonic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tectonic)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/119 "2018-10-21T00:21:07Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/7/87e024ddde08dbd39a5607e567e26dcd1095893e.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/c/6c5968f093fd628aeda852f06a1358e3a73abc63.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/5/8560b33ce2863fa5fac190ad50990791fce5b648.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/d/ad581500a0751a353d9ff453e541ceaed119ac77.jpeg) Tec ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-5pointz-towers-22-44-jackson-ave-498-440-ft-48-41-floors/246/120 "2018-10-28T03:01:15Z")
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