I remember when they rendered this in 2008, the “bear belly” as they called it.
Then, personally my favorite.
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It’s kind of crazy the 3 iterations KPF has gone through with this project.
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Man. I forgot how cool 3 WTC was supposed to look.
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Don’t, it hurts.
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I know man. I’m digging up some old, hurt feelings over here😞.
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Anyone know who’s in charge of the Public Authorities Control Board?
Not Marte and Goldman I hope!
Next vote scheduled to take place the 21st.
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While a 30% slice for below market rate housing satisfies me, the whole process is deeply frustrating. As a nation we constantly try to use private business and other non-governmental entities to pay for services to the least well off. We are international outliers with our terrible social service support systems. So many other countries guarantee certain minimum levels of income, medical care, housing, and retirement funds. Our shibboleth that everyone should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps is hugely counter productive. Lack of basic resources makes that extremely difficult. We discovered that during the pandemic with guaranteed child and family support payments—discovering that families were able to improve their housing, health, and job finding capacities. The recent movement of a few cities to replicate that policy are now having similar impacts. Can we learn from experience? Sorry to go slightly off topic but this has been grating me for years.
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I know this will be deleted but I had to comment.
Guaranteed basic income is a terrible idea. It says to everyone there is no point in working hard because someone else who works hard will help you pay for your basic needs. Aside from social security and possibly Medicare, most social programs in our country are too liberal and need to be cut. Welfare and food stamps are a joke and should both have work requirements. No free hand outs after a certain amount of time.
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It’s amazing that people are still for guaranteed basic income after the inflation we witnessed with just a couple of stimulus bills.
It would never work.
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Ah yes let’s completely ignore corporate America’s contribution to inflation. Get real.
For all the jingoism and nationalism that America is the “greatest” country on earth… yet we can’t take care of our poor and worship at the altar of the dollar. Insane.
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Thanks Baronson. It works elsewhere and it worked here for a short time. I’ll take evidence over instinctive reactions about “giving stuff to poor people without their working for it.” Tell that to someone seriously disabled, or someone living on a dirt poor farm, or someone stymied by racism, or someone who has been turned down for a job too often, or some man or woman without day care who can’t pay for it. Empathy and compassion win for me.
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And that is part of what’s wrong with America right now. People have all sorts of excuses for why they can’t get ahead in society. Lol, “stymied by racism’ or ‘being turned down for a job too often’. Excuses. Work hard.
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Big yikes. Your lack of empathy is astounding but not surprising by your comments. I would argue the inability to place one’s self in another’s shoes is what’s wrong with America today but go off.
Additionally, it’s quite obvious you never closely examined America’s history or you wouldn’t be making such asinine and juvenile comments.
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Thanks again Baronson. Now I think it’s time to get back on topic. Didn’t mean to explode the chain.
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My comments are neither. Immigrants had tough lives starting out in America. Many were poor. But they worked hard so the next generation could see the fruits of their labor.
But yeah, I see you want to take this down the path of personal insults, so I’ll politely agree to disagree and be done.
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Ignorance is bliss but also dangerous. Have a good life.
Mods go ahead and wack this comment chain.
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I think there are truths to both arguments on this thread. On the one hand, politicians arguing that a multibillion-dollar downtown supertall development should essentially be a public housing project are acting in completely bad faith. It’s a weird mix of spite and virtue signaling that stifles any sort of progress.
On the other hand, there is a genuine issue with affordability in NYC that is really tearing the social fabric apart. There are serious issues with the current trajectory that need serious self-reflection, not “let them eat cake” dismissals.
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centrism is the only position that works in long time period not left or right wing hallucinations
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I suppose we wait to see the update June 21st, that’s the most important part. If its approved or not.
I think it’ll be fine. This land is to valuable for it to sit there. No worries.
I really do hope this kickstarts a sort of comeback to Lower Manhattan. I’m tired of midtown getting all of the action, would love to see more rising downtown!
In time, the finishing of 45 Park too.
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