# NEW YORK | 461 W 34th St | 312 FT | 29 FLOORS

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187>\
**Category:** Completed\
**Created:** [June 13, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187 "2014-06-13T23:22:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/1 "2014-06-13T23:22:48Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [NEW YORK | Hudson District - 34th Street Corridor Subdistrict](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-hudson-district-34th-street-corridor-subdistrict/183):

## **[Revealed: 461 West 34th Street](http://www.newyorkyimby.com/2014/04/revealed-461-west-34th-street.html)**

BY: NIKOLAI FEDAK ON APRIL 29TH 2014 AT 12:00 PM

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/1X/65548b4e5ce373b3f4bf20b2c2c801e3610415a3.jpg)  
_461 West 34th Street, rendering via Karl Fischer_

> Concurrent with the recent approval of permits, a rendering for 461 West 34th Street has surfaced on Karl Fischer’s website. The site’s architect of record is DSM Design Group, though that leaves room for Fischer’s involvement as the design architect. Atria and Marx Development are behind the recent DOB filings, and will be developing the site together.

> 461 West 34th Street will stand 312 feet to its roof, with a total of 399 rooms spanning 197,253 square feet. The project’s total cost is $181.1 million, and the Manhattan Regional Center for EB-5 visas has additional specifics.

> The rendering on Fischer’s website may or may not be slightly dated, but it appears to conform to the building’s outline in zoning diagrams, as well as the general street-wall. 461 West 34th Street’s appearance is very basic, but given the possible alternatives, that is not necessarily the worst outcome for the site.

> While the location of the project is currently marginal, the imminent rise of The Hudson Yards will completely change its dynamic, which also begs the question: Why build a basic, frill-free hotel on the corner of what will soon become one of the most iconic intersections in New York City? With ‘supertalls’ lining the other side of Tenth Avenue, the rendered plans for 461 West 34th Street are underwhelming — and given the proximity to tourist attractions and subway access, 461 West 34th Street could surely support additional density.

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_461 West 34th Street_

> Regardless of the site’s obvious potential — which far exceeds what is allowed by zoning — construction is now imminent. No activity is evident on-site, but given the recent approval of permits, excavation should soon begin, as completion is expected in 2016.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/2 "2014-12-20T19:33:32Z")

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## [Design Change: 461 West 34th Street, 29-Story Marriott Courtyard Hotel](http://www.newyorkyimby.com/2014/12/design-change-461-west-34th-street-29-story-marriott-courtyard-hotel.html)

BY: NIKOLAI FEDAK ON DECEMBER 16TH 2014 AT 7:00 AM

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_461 West 34th Street, images from Marx Development Group_

> On one block in Hell’s Kitchen, two hotel projects are currently under construction. While 444 Tenth Avenue has already been revealed, specifics had still been missing for 461 West 34th Street, where several renderings for different designs had been floating around.

> But now, we have the first renderings of the (hopefully) final design for the project, which is being developed by Atria Builders and Marx Development Group. Permits list the architect of record as DSM Design Group, and the building will stand 312 feet and 29 stories tall, totaling 399 rooms.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/5/952483b6726e353cd5af5b9558c52af5c7ebc599.jpeg)  
_461 West 34th Street, equipment on-site_

> While a total scope of almost 200,000 square feet is substantial, in the Hudson Yards, it is quite small. Across the street, the Hudson Yards towers are under construction, and even the retail podium of the office giants will rise nearly halfway to the new Marriott’s roof.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/3 "2016-05-13T20:02:55Z")

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Taken 5/12 from the 10th ave side. Appears like it may go vertical soon. The amount of construction in this area is insane. I didnt even know about this one but stopped to take a pic anyway as i was walking by. Pretty big site.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/4 "2016-06-13T04:07:27Z")

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/5 "2016-06-27T14:35:53Z")

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6/25  
It is starting to go vertical already.

Also on the north end of the block at 35th it appears that a new four points hotel is almost complete. Never noticed that one before.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/6 "2016-06-27T21:00:37Z")

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Finally! It seems like this had been going on for some time.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/7 "2016-07-05T19:46:00Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/c/cf296290b696cb05e95a096e7a0df6410d05654e.JPG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/b/b327a7c59b4ab337c5d23beb25c878be98954045.JPG)  
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Its a shame the midblock low rise buildings couldn’t be integrated into this building. I don’t have a problem with preservation per se, but they are going to be really out of place in a few years. The view depicted in photo 3 will be dramatically different in less than 10 years when hudson blvd and tishman’s spiral building goes up. Those tire shops will get pushed out too

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/8 "2016-07-23T03:37:07Z")

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**Today**

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/9 "2016-08-06T03:40:30Z")

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Aug 4th.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/10 "2016-09-01T17:35:07Z")

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Not much change as of a week ago…

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Tectonic

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/11 "2016-09-05T19:44:08Z")

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9/4

Not much progress on the west side of the lot over the last few months but the east side is catching up a bit.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/6/6ba460faf9d23cdce3e48ce2e47bc3ea96d58537.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/f/f7dd331076afdf1cb2e7472ed67171a63724b9e7.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/12 "2016-10-14T02:31:52Z")

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4th floor.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/13 "2016-10-21T05:19:30Z")

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/14 "2016-10-21T21:25:28Z")

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This had such a slow start but now it apears to be moving fast!

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/15 "2016-11-05T22:58:48Z")

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11/5

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/16 "2016-11-26T03:24:38Z")

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Crawling…

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TECTONIC

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/17 "2016-12-13T04:59:10Z")

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 5:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/18 "2016-12-31T05:42:14Z")

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12/30

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/19 "2017-01-22T20:34:06Z")

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-461-w-34th-st-312-ft-29-floors/187/20 "2017-02-07T18:05:49Z")

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Empire at night  
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