# NEW YORK | 45 Park Place | 665 FT | 43 FLOORS

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**Category:** Under Construction\
**Created:** [June 13, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153 "2014-06-13T17:21:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/235 "2020-01-30T05:10:41Z")

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Screenshot of video. As of Jan 17th (45 Park Place). Next to the majestic 30 Park Place.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/d/7d1b0e48e80165da15b6a0288d00968717757f61.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/236 "2020-01-31T18:59:29Z")

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[https://www.instagram.com/p/B7\_o7SGlNsW/?igshid=wz038l27nfb6](https://www.instagram.com/p/B7_o7SGlNsW/?igshid=wz038l27nfb6)

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/237 "2020-02-01T15:06:03Z")

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Where’s Waldo?

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/238 "2020-02-07T02:42:38Z")

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Welp. Taken 1.26.20:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/c/5cb4163bf80c45a62823cad0725e8242e9f639e6.jpeg)](https://flic.kr/p/2iq3Eoi)

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**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/239 "2020-02-11T19:18:17Z")

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[https://www.instagram.com/p/B8byAyynVLX/?igshid=67u9o0no540w](https://www.instagram.com/p/B8byAyynVLX/?igshid=67u9o0no540w)

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/240 "2020-02-20T00:14:53Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/c/0c149cae86748a22701d97e33684582aa17dc6e1.jpeg)  
Credit: [FC](http://fieldcondition.com/blog/2020/2/19/tour-skytop-at-15-hudson-yards)

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**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/241 "2020-02-26T02:36:51Z")

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It is eerie how this tower sits abandoned.

 ![IMG_20200225_145942](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/e/ee43556a6af1a0610102e7e9b29ade077ef1b0b9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/242 "2020-02-26T14:18:04Z")

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There were quite a few buildings like this when I visited Bangkok in 2001. My friend that lived there told me they were all eventually completed but it took years to get refinanced.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/243 "2020-02-26T15:07:34Z")

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It’s rather sad that New York’s left-wing dysfunctionality is akin to Thailand. I think I’d prefer the Thai military junta to the Red Regime of NYC.

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**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/244 "2020-02-26T15:20:56Z")

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Robert Walpole. The problems are not all from the left. Rightish greed and value engineering play a role. The Kaufman hotels, for example, are not from lefty inspirations for insipid buildings. And, heaven forbid, it may actually be true that large buildings don’t belong in some areas. In any case it’s hard to blame one brand of politics for the issues you see. Spread your critiques around!

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/245 "2020-02-26T16:10:56Z")

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That’s fair enough, Chused.

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**Author:** ![bpc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@bpc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bpc)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/246 "2020-02-26T17:44:54Z")

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Also none of us should forget that this case in particular is uniquely difficult because the developer is a devout Muslim and only uses sharia loans. Most other people probably could have already gotten an emergency funding injection by now.

> **[Sharia Financing | 45 Park Place | Sharif El-Gamal](https://therealdeal.com/2016/05/26/by-the-book-behind-el-gamals-deal-for-sharia-compliant-financing-at-45-park/)**
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> How Sharif El-Gamal scored sharia-compliant construction financing for his luxury condo project at 45 Park Place.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/247 "2020-02-26T17:53:44Z")

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Thailand is a monarchy. I don’t know where you get left wing out of that.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/248 "2020-02-26T18:22:01Z")

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It’s run by the military with the king’s assent. I didn’t say that it’s left wing.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/249 "2020-02-26T18:43:20Z")

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> [@robertwalpole](#):
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> New York’s left-wing dysfunctionality is akin to Thailand

If you’ve been to Thailand you would appreciate how much better things are run here.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/250 "2020-02-26T19:03:30Z")

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I have been.

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**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/251 "2020-02-28T15:32:47Z")

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[https://www.instagram.com/p/B9C8vp6H54b/?igshid=jdwzesflin87](https://www.instagram.com/p/B9C8vp6H54b/?igshid=jdwzesflin87)

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/252 "2020-03-26T19:11:25Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/8/587cfaae46242bc69d918cc2ca060c36e863a3ae.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/253 "2020-03-26T19:33:56Z")

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The facade of this building is going up quickly: metal framed glass panels bolted to the edge of the concrete formwork slabs. This method of curtain wall construction is much less labor intensive than those solid masonry facades we see currently being built by RAM: 555 West 22nd street comes to mind. This building may turn out to be a very ‘edgy’ modernist condo tower as depicted in the architectural renderings: but so far it is looking a bit like a ‘generic’ glass box. We must wait and see the finished product before anyone know for sure how well this building rates in terms of aesthetics. The functionality will clearly be great: massive windows brings bright natural light to the interior apartments - and expansive views looking out over the city.

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**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-45-park-place-665-ft-43-floors/153/254 "2020-03-26T22:17:29Z")

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Glass has been stalled since September lol

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