# NEW YORK | 425 Park Ave | 860 FT | 41 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [July 19, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520 "2014-07-19T15:16:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/1 "2014-07-19T15:16:28Z")
## [**Approved: 425 Park Avenue**](https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2014/03/approved-425-park-avenue.html) BY: NIKOLAI FEDAK ON MARCH 4TH 2014 AT 10:00 AM ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/1X/0e329bf84aefc9879772ddfdd2f29424b1382197.jpg) _425 Park Avenue – existing building_ > All permits for construction at 425 Park Avenue have been approved, and work may begin shortly; the existing building is being partially demolished to make way for 42 stories of offices, designed by Norman Foster. The developer is L&L Holding Company. > The entirety of the redevelopment will encompass approximately 513,000 square feet, and the height to the highest occupied floor will be 905 feet. That figure may not include the ‘fins’ atop Foster’s vision, given that Department of Buildings measurements do not include architectural flourishes; if 425 Park Avenue doesn’t break the 1,000-foot mark, it will certainly come close. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/1X/84af2fad6af4c3351fcc424f7352cd1ce87349e8.jpg) _425 Park Avenue — image from Foster_ > While the future of the Midtown East re-zoning has been temporarily derailed, the cloud of disconcertion should be temporary, as De Blasio has promised to continue the push that failed under the Bloomberg administration. 425 Park Avenue is not dependent on the re-zoning, as it will simply be a re-configuration of the existing square footage into Class A space. > Indeed, moving forward ahead of the general re-zoning will give L&L an edge over other developers, as 425 Park Avenue will rise several years prior to competing projects. > The lower quarter of the existing 425 Park Avenue must be preserved, so demolition may be more difficult than usual, but L&L’s project is expected to be completed in 2017. ---
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/2 "2014-07-15T16:37:10Z")
More Renderings via [Visual House](http://www.visualhouse.co/425-park-ave-new-york) [http://static.squarespace.com/static/52702699e4b0a3367f9f133b/5270619de4b0aa61f18519ad/53c050efe4b02b0c97836e9a/1405113146127/visualhouse\_Overall\_Exterior\_View-8.0.jpg](http://static.squarespace.com/static/52702699e4b0a3367f9f133b/5270619de4b0aa61f18519ad/53c050efe4b02b0c97836e9a/1405113146127/visualhouse_Overall_Exterior_View-8.0.jpg) . [http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/LC001-1-C01-R01-Lobby-Elevation-Dusk-051-2200x1012.jpg](http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/LC001-1-C01-R01-Lobby-Elevation-Dusk-051-2200x1012.jpg) . ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/0/6083a8d936a7f3cd01cbd0339ff201d85950a4b4.jpeg) . [http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Amenity\_level2-1024x1024.jpg](http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Amenity_level2-1024x1024.jpg) . [http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/Visual-House-1-31.jpg](http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/Visual-House-1-31.jpg) . ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/d/edea32cc003792440d442dbb8f1b2bb9a35e00c7.jpeg) . [http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/LC001-01-C07-R01-425-Park-Office-Day-Park-Opt2-04.jpg](http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/LC001-01-C07-R01-425-Park-Office-Day-Park-Opt2-04.jpg) . ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/3/c30b3daca0a2b4ad0fe5df815631dca15b404944.jpeg) . [http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/Hero\_shot\_North\_crop.jpg](http://www.425parkave.com/wp-content/uploads/Hero_shot_North_crop.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Vertical\_Gotham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/vertical_gotham/32/4525_2.png) [@Vertical\_Gotham](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Vertical_Gotham)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/3 "2014-07-16T20:21:20Z")
[http://static.squarespace.com/static/52702699e4b0a3367f9f133b/5270619de4b0aa61f18519ad/53c050efe4b02b0c97836e9a/1405113146127/visualhouse\_Overall\_Exterior\_View-8.0.jpg](http://static.squarespace.com/static/52702699e4b0a3367f9f133b/5270619de4b0aa61f18519ad/53c050efe4b02b0c97836e9a/1405113146127/visualhouse_Overall_Exterior_View-8.0.jpg) first time seeing that render. It looks to be ~ 900’ with fins. This will be an iconic addition to Park Avenue like the 375 Park Ave (Seagram). Really looking forward to see this start. cheers! ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 11:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/4 "2014-11-13T11:17:43Z")
Full screen and in HD is a must! [http://vimeo.com/111685444](http://vimeo.com/111685444) The song that they picked to complement the video is some inception right there. Feels like a movie. Also, pause at 2:05, and 2:16; you’ll thank me. ---
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/5 "2014-11-13T17:03:20Z")
## [New Look: 425 Park Avenue](https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2014/11/new-look-425-park-avenue.html) BY: NIKOLAI FEDAK ON NOVEMBER 13TH 2014 AT 4:30 AM ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/1/21cf28ce5cd0760450db5738e2cb7d7ecc97b65b.jpeg) _425 Park Avenue, by Neoscape_ > The Norman Foster-designed 425 Park Avenue has been in the works for several years, and was first revealed during a competition to design the office tower. Now, YIMBY has a video of the project, produced by Neoscape and also on display at the project’s new website, which offers a comprehensive new look at the building, interiors, as well as the future skyscraper’s place on the Manhattan skyline. > The context of the development has shifted dramatically with the recent rise of 432 Park Avenue, positioning a 1,397-foot goliath diagonally across the street from Foster’s building. But 425 Park Avenue will be prominent in its own right, and per zoning diagrams filed with the Department of Buildings, the skyscraper will stand 860 feet to the top of its fins. > The tower will likely take its place alongside the General Motors Building and the Solow Building as the priciest in the city, attracting financial tenants willing to pay annual rents around $200 per square foot for space at the top with Central Park views. But the building could even enter a realm all of its own when it comes to rents, as it will be much newer and more architecturally ambitious than its two older rivals. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/c/ac4d9768226bbeba95010e9ff58786279f0d75a8.jpeg) _Looking down at 425 Park Avenue, by Neoscape_ > Much like Hearst Tower, 425 Park Avenue will also employ Foster’s trademark diagrid pattern, though in this instance it will only cover a portion of the project’s Park Avenue frontage. The rest will be dominated by vertical metallic bands, which ultimately yield to the trident-like crown, which will still rank among the tallest buildings in New York City, falling roughly halfway between the MetLife Building at 806 feet, and the nearby Citigroup Center, which is 915 feet tall. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/b/9bec3d7a86518f3e53b8af41bd474b94ace157e4.jpeg) _View from top of 425 Park Avenue, by Neoscape_ > The 625,000 square-foot tower will only rise 42 stories, providing for generous ceiling heights of either 9.5 or 14.5 feet, while a “club floor” with floor-to-ceiling glass will have ceilings measuring 41 feet. > Lower levels will have lower ceilings, as the project involves the partial demolition of the current 425 Park Avenue. The bottom quarter of the old tower will be integrated into the new structure, allowing developer L&L to avoid a reduction in allowable floor area due to inane and outdated zoning that the city is, thankfully, already making an effort to fix. > Completion of the project is currently expected in 2018. ---
**Author:** ![Tokyocheesesteak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Tokyocheesesteak](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tokyocheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/6 "2015-08-04T21:19:01Z")
Almost exactly a year ago, June 2014 [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/3/1353e6db4ec8a1fd826c0922283d416f8d905ad9.jpeg "425 Park Ave before demolition, NYC, June 2014") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCxO2THhVrQ) Last week [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/6/56b521317a5de212879ca783f6733f636991c550.jpeg "425 Park Ave, NYC, July 2015 demolition") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFd6lmWtWhs) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/7 "2015-09-22T01:28:40Z")
Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/1/1545fcd5a94cd2f265ec02c4dca58865c73e1062.jpg)Uploading image.jpg… ---
**Author:** ![atlksuguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/atlksuguy/32/1881_2.png) [@atlksuguy](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/atlksuguy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/8 "2015-09-22T22:12:10Z")
> **[425 Park Avenue | L&L Holding](https://therealdeal.com/2015/09/14/425-park-sees-record-300-per-square-foot-rent-deal/)** > > Hedge fund Citadel will occupy 200,000 square feet at L&L Holding Company's 425 Park Avenue, paying up to $300 a square foot for the penthouse portion, a record Good news I guess? Love this building! ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/9 "2015-09-23T03:36:18Z")
I agree, Atl. This tower is great! ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/10 "2015-10-06T00:51:59Z")
Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/d/d5f801630acdb6b013cca82bf97028a58dcaf09b.jpg) ---
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Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/e/e41c9a6ed22ee9cc1528b32cd3be363dce3f938d.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![atlksuguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/atlksuguy/32/1881_2.png) [@atlksuguy](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/atlksuguy)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/12 "2015-10-15T17:20:52Z")
Just curious… How high can scaffolding go? Thanks for the pics rw! ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/13 "2015-10-15T23:09:53Z")
I don’t know about the scaffolding. My pleasure, amigo! ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/14 "2015-10-27T10:58:42Z")
Yesterday ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/9/90a6f6306a4a185bd3bcc51a4632f4b44e9a6cd8.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/4/4bc3b1c854321e2c2d4f1127ba44a278d4d927ad.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/f/f624c3c08c6b4c385948e115568babac1b4353a7.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/3/301e9d92e060154c05ae9f8ab4cc771f02f78161.jpg) ---
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Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/1/1316cea4d0b2576e79ece42ac74126e1b8178338.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/b/b9a356c2594b5485b5a0055c8706deca4f9ad799.jpg) ---
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What’s that vacant lot in the foreground of the second image? ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/17 "2015-11-19T01:57:01Z")
That’s part of the site for the proposed Marmara Hotel on Lex. ---
**Author:** ![CityGuy87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@CityGuy87](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/CityGuy87)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/18 "2015-11-19T02:21:46Z")
Couldn’t find any rendering or whatever on that development. I’m guessing it’s early in its design phase. ---
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That’s correct. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520/20 "2015-12-03T12:49:36Z")
Yesterday ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/3/3ec2a5b0fc7bcde0ff2498217c0b7578830ce5c3.jpg) There are nice old townhouses on the adjacent side street. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/f/fb1566bfa519d4161ba81ccfa26f19f08db9c345.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/6/638e39459e59800b787f05b42742a670708622c4.jpg) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-425-park-ave-860-ft-41-floors/520.md?page=2)