# NEW YORK | 334 West 36th St | 261 FT | 20 FLOORS

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**Category:** Completed\
**Created:** [August 22, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789 "2014-08-22T20:57:18Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/1 "2014-08-22T20:57:18Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [NEW YORK | Hudson District - Clinton & Garment Districts](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-hudson-district-clinton-garment-districts/184):

## [Sam Chang Picks Up West 36th Street Building for $50.8M](http://commercialobserver.com/2014/08/sam-chang-picks-up-west-36th-street-building-for-50-8m/)

BY LAUREN ELKIES SCHRAM 8/21 4:56PM

[https://nyocommercialobserver.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/334-west-36th-street.jpg](https://nyocommercialobserver.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/334-west-36th-street.jpg)  
_334 West 36th Street_

> Developer Sam Chang‘s McSam Hotel Group has picked up 334 West 36th Street from the Postgraduate Center for Mental Health for $50.8 million. **Mr. Chang said he doesn’t know yet whether he plans to erect a hotel or residential rental building at the site.**

> The sale of the property, which is between Eighth and Ninth Avenues, closed on Aug. 6 and appeared in property records today. Mr. Chang said Postgraduate Center for Mental Health, which provides mental health treatment, housing, job training and placement as well as case management services, retains the right to occupy the premises until next year.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2014, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/2 "2014-08-23T10:50:50Z")

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This sucks. That’s a beautiful building.

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**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/3 "2014-08-23T14:24:07Z")

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Hopefully Chang keeps the right portion (with the bay windows – those are awesome). And I thought he said he was retiring lol.

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**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/4 "2014-12-11T21:08:16Z")

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> **[Sam Chang Hotel | Gene Kaufman | 334 West 36th Street NYC](https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2014/12/10/sam-chang-plans-406-room-20-story-midtown-hotel/)**
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> Sam Chang of McSam Hotel Group filed permits for a 406-room Midtown West hotel on a site he bought in August for $50.8 million.

> The hotel developer plans to construct a 20-story, 123,000-square-foot property at 334 West 36th Street, between Eighth and Ninth avenues. The building would house a ground-floor restaurant, about 22 rooms apiece from floors two to 14, and 20 rooms apiece from floors 15 to 20, according to the permits.

> Gene Kaufman was hired to serve as the architect of record.

> Chang bought the six-story, 58,644-square-foot building occupied by the Postgraduate Center for Mental Health that is now on the site. Postgraduate Center for Mental Health is slated to exit the premises next year, as reported.

> The six-story building will be demolished by April and the hotel is expected to open by spring 2017, Chang told TRD.

> “I’m planning to develop one hotel at a time,” Chang said. “I will work on the Eighth Avenue Holiday Inn until April and then focus on this hotel.”

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**Author:** ![Vertical\_Gotham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/vertical_gotham/32/4525_2.png) [@Vertical\_Gotham](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Vertical_Gotham)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/5 "2016-06-09T05:12:10Z")

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> **[Builder incorporates historic church’s facade into new project](https://nypost.com/2016/06/08/builder-incorporates-historic-churchs-facade-into-new-project/)**
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> Holy historic preservation! Developer Sam Chang has saved my cherished, long-ago, church-office window after all. Maybe it was divine intervention because Chang, who’s put up dozens of characterles…

[https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/church.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=600&h=400&crop=1](https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/church.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=600&h=400&crop=1)

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 10:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/6 "2016-06-09T10:42:52Z")

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Great news!

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**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/7 "2016-06-09T19:40:44Z")

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It’s fantastic that they’re preserving the façade, but everything else is absolutely hideous. What the hell is that blank street wall fence-thing?

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**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/8 "2016-06-24T21:24:37Z")

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Yeah this proposal is ugly.

Does anyone know what this building is that is under construction 1 lot to the east at 320 west 36th? 334 with the red marker and 320 is the site to the right probably taken last year when the lot was being cleared.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/8/8b11d2306bd13b4af0404622535878586b77d0c4.png)

Looks like another boring hotel but it is wierd that a large building like this doesnt have its own thread yet?

Here it is from yesterday morning

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/9 "2016-06-24T21:30:35Z")

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Here is the google street view from last year showing both sites. The on site rendering shows it will be another hotel.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/5/541844db7c6e09fe4c926d91c81bc9604b9eb44d.png)

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/10 "2016-07-03T12:00:33Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/8/08438d327e2aa78d75c58849cde4a22b21110bfd.jpeg)  
Credit: [6sqf](http://www.6sqft.com/gene-kaufmans-church-incorporating-hotel-rises-on-west-36th-street/)

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/11 "2016-09-11T18:26:15Z")

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9/10

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/1/14c635443de164df65bd62994a635923a8b25b90.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/3/399ee3c0802247c1226a53fd441838169b0fd665.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/12 "2016-11-27T17:17:39Z")

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11/26

They are at ground level now. Should start to rise soon.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/f/fc4696d46d94f9d31566f957734f8a2634eeb21e.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/a/a7db9a568b00f98f6ffc1e13086fa41f9f0cf075.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/13 "2017-03-03T04:04:33Z")

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3/2

What the hell happened here? I thought they were supposed to keep the old church facade up to the the 2nd floor. As of sept last year they kept most of the facade to the 2nd floor and even included it in the renderings. By Late Nov last year it kinda looked like some of the facade had came down a bit on the east side. Today it appears as though they have only kept the first floor facade because the rest is completely gone now. I assumed the city made them keep part of the facade so it would be strange to then say they can keep half of it? Maybe part of it crumbled or something and they had to tear it down.

After going back to that nypost article above it appeared as though mcsam voluntarily kept the facade. So i guess he can do whatever he wants. Part of the tower portion was always going to be rebuilt so it seems now most of the original facade may just be rebuilt to look like the old church. Meh.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/5/597c5f3daf6a734d6a26be71455eed21b1126835.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/e/e2b4633685529d6d00aa9960e8c546b79a6a3505.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/14 "2017-05-04T04:44:10Z")

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May 2

[https://s22.postimg.org/46jlsux1d/IMG\_00002162.jpg](https://s22.postimg.org/46jlsux1d/IMG_00002162.jpg)

[https://s22.postimg.org/sczb13phd/IMG\_00002166.jpg](https://s22.postimg.org/sczb13phd/IMG_00002166.jpg)

[https://s22.postimg.org/4aih688u9/IMG\_00002167.jpg](https://s22.postimg.org/4aih688u9/IMG_00002167.jpg)

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/15 "2017-09-05T01:39:17Z")

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earlier today

 ![IMG_5515](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/e/2eeb88abfc65a472a2c05f7076391e608d2e5836.JPG)

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/16 "2017-12-03T14:50:04Z")

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Yesterday

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/8/78f3131826b42a7938ad45cb546d77237013b657.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/6/966a8814a9e9804078d50ece7d042a3fa0ae52b5.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/17 "2018-12-12T18:10:13Z")

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The nets are down to show the final cladding.

They never kept the facade up. They demolished the entire thing I think and just recreated something close to the original facade.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/5/c558c6f691a7e011ea755b32310e76bf18960dba.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/7/e7923c0975e434a42fd360c80f47d422016c7297.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/c/4c4c9d4b782842af780b200f14b202cbfe48b8ad.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/18 "2018-12-12T18:42:11Z")

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Wow, that’s very disappointing. It looks nothing like the original besides the massing of it.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/19 "2018-12-12T20:15:51Z")

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This is disgraceful. That was such a beautiful building.

Chang and Kaufman are a boil on the ass of NYC. Who the hell stays at these monstrosities anyways?

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-334-west-36th-st-261-ft-20-floors/789/20 "2018-12-12T20:18:47Z")

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> [@josh85](#):
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> This is disgraceful. That was such a beautiful building.
> 
> **Chang and Kaufman are a boil on the ass of NYC. Who the hell stays at these monstrosities anyways?**

Folks with nothing to lose. Those that have hit rock bottom.

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