# NEW YORK | 321 E 96th St | 760 FT | 68 FLOORS

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509>\
**Category:** Proposed\
**Created:** [April 27, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509 "2016-04-27T23:41:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/21 "2017-03-24T02:12:36Z")

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The selfishness and extremism of the NIMBYs are so gross. They would deny kids a school, deny 300 families affordable housing, so they don’t have to stare at another skyscraper (in Manhattan of all places!) every once in a while. The fact that these people are taken seriously, that they feel no shame at all uttering this nonsense in public, is unbelievable.

> students from both Park East and Heritage high schools pleaded with  
> the community board to approve the project because their respective  
> schools lack enough space for the number of students and their  
> programs. One Heritage student said his gym doubles as the school’s  
> cafeteria and that “we eat where we sweat.”

> “Last year, when they told us we would have a new building, everyone  
> had inspiration to do something,” said Heritage sophomore Shane  
> Lauderdale. “Our school is in the middle of a war zone… if we get out  
> and have a bigger school, we’re going to want to stay in there, where  
> we see nothing but positivity.”

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> local resident Andrea Davis called the high-rise “a behemoth,” a  
> “huge monstrosity,” and said that it “doesn’t belong anywhere near  
> here.”

> “Nobody wants a 68-story building except Avalon,” said 96th Street  
> resident Rebecca Conner, referring to the developer. “There has to be  
> another way to support [the students] and give [them] what [they] need  
> without the community suffering.”

> Lo van der Valk, president of the group Carnegie Hill Neighbors, said the tower would be the tallest building in the area.

> “It’s taller than Mt. Sinai Hospital and its tower built nearby… it  
> would be taller than anything on the Upper East Side,” he said, adding  
> that there should be attempts to reduce the size of the tower.

> “Architects are hired to solve those problems,” he said. “Set it back  
> 50 feet so it creates less of an impact… without reducing the benefit  
> to the community.”

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> **['Behemoth' E. 96th Street Redevelopment Approved by Community Board](https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170323/east-harlem/east-96th-street-redevelopment-affordable-housing-residential-tower-school-buildings-approved/)**
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> East Harlem's Community Board 11 approved the project with several conditions attached.

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/22 "2017-03-24T02:16:06Z")

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> [@apophenic](#):
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> “Nobody wants a 68-story building except Avalon,” said 96th Street resident Rebecca Conner, referring to the developer. “There has to be another way to support [the students] and give [them] what [they] need without the community suffering.”

That not true, I want it. Many others do. Many people who want to live in the city rely on new developments to have the units available. Supply!

> [@apophenic](#):
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> Lo van der Valk, president of the group Carnegie Hill Neighbors, said the tower would be the tallest building in the area.

Observant he is.

> [@apophenic](#):
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> local resident Andrea Davis called the high-rise “a behemoth,” a “huge monstrosity,” and said that it “doesn’t belong anywhere near here.”

Andrea Davis shouldn’t be living in Manhattan. Lol doesn’t belong anywhere near here…

The NIMBYS tend to have the same recurrent themes going on. Too tall, monstrosity…

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**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/23 "2017-03-24T02:21:46Z")

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> “The NIMBYS tend to have the same recurrent themes going on. Too tall, monstrosity…”

Yup, and they’ll say the same thing whether it’s a 70-story building, or a 40-story building, or a 20-story building. What matters is that it’s new, it’s change, and that upsets them, and it doesn’t matter who has to suffer as long as they get their way. And they’ll bring up BS about “needing more community input” in order to block any change. Their MO is exactly the same whether it’s new buildings, or safety improvements to roads, or improvements to prevent stormwater runoff. These people need to be treated as the selfish cranks they are. Instead they’re given outsized influence in the process.

> **[To the City, a Pollution Fighter. To Some Residents, an Eyesore (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/nyregion/bioswale-rain-gardens-new-york.html)**
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> New York has added 3,000 bioswales, or rain gardens, to absorb storm water and ease pressure on an aging sewer system. But not everyone is pleased.

> **[De Blasio Must Fix 111th Street Before Someone Gets Killed - Streetsblog New...](https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2017/03/23/de-blasio-must-fix-111th-street-before-someone-gets-killed)**
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> It's springtime. As the weather warms there will be more children, with and without their parents, crossing 111th Street to get to Flushing Meadows-Corona Park. The mayor must direct DOT to fix 111th Street now -- before, not after, someone gets...

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**Author:** ![jagaruni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jagaruni/32/28809_2.png) [@jagaruni](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/jagaruni)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/24 "2017-03-24T15:34:19Z")

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I live right around the corner and am always happy to see a new high rise. The whole neighborhood is high rises so I don’t understand what the NIMBYs are complaining about here. That is one of the reasons I love the area. I am now just crossing my fingers they put a Trader Joe’s in this building. That’s the one thing this area still could use and which I keep hoping for.

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/25 "2017-03-24T23:00:05Z")

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Those where some good reads. Reading the one about Trump and bike lanes, I just had to facepalm. Like Bill Cosby use to say: NIMBYS say the darndest things

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/26 "2017-05-18T01:36:27Z")

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> **[City Planning Holds Hearing on Skyscraper East Harlem Development \[UPDATE:...](https://www.citylandnyc.org/city-planning-holds-hearing-skyscraper-east-harlem-development/)**
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> The proposed rezoning would facilitate the construction of two new buildings for three high schools, and up to 1,200 new apartments in East Harlem.

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**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/27 "2017-08-11T04:59:53Z")

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[http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20170810/REAL\_ESTATE/170819989/mayor-bill-de-blasio-scores-win-with-east-harlem-avalonbay-tower](http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20170810/REAL_ESTATE/170819989/mayor-bill-de-blasio-scores-win-with-east-harlem-avalonbay-tower)

> The project will rise 673 feet on a full block site bounded by East 96th and East 97th streets between First and Second avenues once it is approved by the full council. In addition to roughly 1,000 apartments—a third of which will be enrolled in an affordable-housing program—the project will create space for three high schools and replace an existing playground.

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**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/28 "2017-10-24T20:43:54Z")

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Cuomo is trying to kill this now. Probably because he hates de Blasio and wants to spite him or try to extort him to contribute more city funds to the (state-run) MTA:

> **[Cuomo pauses city plans to move East Harlem playground to build schools,...](https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/questions-jurisdiction-pause-plan-relocate-nyc-playground-article-1.3585348)**
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> City plans to relocate an East Harlem playground to make room for two new schools and a residential tower have been put on hold by Cuomo.

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/29 "2017-10-24T22:06:03Z")

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And this is why people hate politicians. Because they play politics over things like housing that can help those who need it. We have a demand problem, and our elected leaders are playing high school games. For shame!

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/30 "2020-11-19T14:24:55Z")

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City Realty photos

Current condition of site

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[https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/rental-building-offers/east-harlem/as-the-smile-launches-leasing-4-months-free-rent-see-20-uplifting-east-harlem-developments-worth-beaming/47461](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/rental-building-offers/east-harlem/as-the-smile-launches-leasing-4-months-free-rent-see-20-uplifting-east-harlem-developments-worth-beaming/47461)

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**Author:** ![Jaydayvis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@Jaydayvis](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Jaydayvis)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-321-e-96th-st-760-ft-68-floors/2509/31 "2022-05-06T03:56:09Z")

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Whatever happened to this tower? Ever since 2018, things have been silent. Is this a dead proposal?

**I did my research and only found articles/info dating from 2018. Four years later, nothing going on.**

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