# NEW YORK | 316 Fifth Ave | 535 FT | 40 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Proposed\ **Created:** [April 21, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557 "2017-04-21T20:02:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/1 "2017-04-21T20:02:59Z")
314 and 316 Fifth Ave, two beautiful, old buildings, on the SW corner of Fifth and 32nd St, have been emptied. The buildings are gorgeous but in need of massive TLC. The tenants were a schlocky souvenir shop and a FILTHY pizza place. I hope that the buildings are cleaned and get good tenants, though, sadly, I suspect that they will be razed. ---
**Author:** ![Brooklyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/brooklyn/32/16158_2.png) [@Brooklyn](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Brooklyn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/2 "2017-04-21T22:57:38Z")
please post a picture, if you have one ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/3 "2017-04-21T23:50:06Z")
I’ll snap one on Mon, Brooklyn. ---
**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/4 "2017-04-22T01:42:04Z")
If those buildings are razed then what is the actual point of the the Landmarks Committee? I mean really, you can’t get more elegant and extravagant than that building on the corner. If they were really gonna tear it down, wouldn’t there already be an uproar, like there was for the Bancroft? I will be livid if they tear them down ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/8/c8aea5a77aa8a050b74c89e50158723b50eb7280.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/e/cedf72a5e487ae28416db45505f17a04cc740b41.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 10:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/5 "2017-04-22T10:17:32Z")
The landmarks committee is BS! ---
**Author:** ![Vertical\_Gotham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/vertical_gotham/32/4525_2.png) [@Vertical\_Gotham](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Vertical_Gotham)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/6 "2017-04-22T12:39:24Z")
That sux ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/7 "2017-04-22T12:57:30Z")
I agree, VG. That whole area should be landmarked. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/8 "2017-07-06T16:11:25Z")
As expected. This stinks. > **[Cottonwood Management | 316 Fifth Avenue](https://therealdeal.com/2017/07/06/cottonwood-planning-a-40-story-condo-tower-on-fifth-avenue/)** > > Developer Cottonwood Management wants to bring 27 expansive luxury condominium units to a new 40-story tower one block south of the Empire State Building. ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/9 "2017-07-06T16:19:02Z")
schmucks. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/10 "2017-07-06T16:26:44Z")
I agree. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/11 "2017-07-06T17:47:23Z")
The nice old buildings will go and the crap will stay. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/7/f760bd18135ed038044adb5183cc720bc67ab1bf.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Helberd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f14d63/32.png) [@Helberd](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Helberd)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/12 "2017-07-06T21:06:41Z")
This is BS! No one is gonna do anything about that? ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/13 "2017-07-06T22:17:43Z")
I agree, but nothing can be done. ---
**Author:** ![lowkeylion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/lowkeylion/32/1239_2.png) [@lowkeylion](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/lowkeylion)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/15 "2017-07-07T12:59:01Z")
I wouldn’t be terribly upset if the crap were being razed, too. It sucks that it’s staying. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/16 "2017-07-07T17:02:04Z")
I agree , Lion ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/17 "2017-07-24T16:46:17Z")
> **[Landmark Push May Be Too Late to Save Century-Old Fifth Ave. Building](https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170721/midtown-south/kaskel-building-316-fith-avenue-demolition-landmark/)** > > The developer of a new condo tower applied for a permit to demolish the building on July 12. ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/18 "2017-07-24T17:02:20Z")
> [@](#): > > But according to landmarks rules, property owners that have demolition permits issued prior to designation would have that work grandfathered in and would be allowed to proceed — spelling certain doom for the Kaskel & Kaskel building, since the demolition permits have been submitted with no designation in sight. really? that’s messed up. Like really, really messed up. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/19 "2017-08-08T15:13:15Z")
I hope that this is landmarked!!! [http://www.ourtownny.com/local-news/20170807/racing-the-wrecking-ball](http://www.ourtownny.com/local-news/20170807/racing-the-wrecking-ball) > **[Push To Landmark Midtown Building Doomed For Demolition Gains Steam](https://patch.com/new-york/midtown-nyc/push-landmark-midtown-building-doomed-demolition-gains-steam)** > > Developers have proposed tearing down the Kaskel & Kaskel building on Fifth Avenue to build a 40-story apartment tower. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/20 "2017-08-17T23:27:08Z")
> **[City Won't Landmark Century-Old Fifth Ave. Building, Officials Say](https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170817/midtown-south/kaskel-building-passed-landmark-preservation-commission/)** > > The city is no longer considering the Kaskel & Kaskel building as a landmark, officials said. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557/21 "2017-08-17T23:42:15Z")
That sucks. I wonder what the chances are they could get them to zone the whole district (i assume just 29th st block) as a landmark? Seems unlikely but they are going for it. [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-316-fifth-ave-535-ft-40-floors/3557.md?page=2)