# NEW YORK | 29th St & 5th Ave | FT | 43 FLOORS

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217>\
**Category:** Under Construction\
**Created:** [June 14, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217 "2014-06-14T02:21:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/244 "2022-01-11T19:28:08Z")

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I agree. I’d take a simple glass box over what BIG had proposed, but I suspect that KPF will come up with something very nice.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/245 "2022-01-11T20:07:26Z")

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Maybe they can design a cantilever over Marble collegiate to use up their buildable floor area to avoid going too tall.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/246 "2022-01-11T21:08:24Z")

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I’d like to see a 1,000’+ spire here. I suspect that it can be situated in a way that does not obstruct views of the ESB.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/247 "2022-01-11T21:13:06Z")

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I suspect people will complain about the views being obstructed no matter what gets built.

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**Author:** ![lowkeylion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/lowkeylion/32/1239_2.png) [@lowkeylion](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/lowkeylion)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/248 "2022-01-11T21:28:45Z")

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I concur. Another 1,000 footer in Midtown would be further evidence of the absolute dominance of The City and The Age of Ramses.

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**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/249 "2022-01-11T22:50:46Z")

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Build a tall, narrow supertall. That would look best in context of the ESB, and would obviously enhance the Midtown skyline.

ESB profile will be enhanced by more tall, slim towers in proximity. The skyline works as a symphony.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/250 "2022-02-09T20:39:15Z")

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I wonder when we’ll hear some news.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/251 "2022-04-12T12:10:57Z")

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Has anyone been by here recently?

I’m curious about the status of the three small buildings just west of the site on the 30th St side. HFZ owned them. I hope they come down soon.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/d/cd7f44b8c6ad6c6970414be74b5b29689d00d8b9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Oppix56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/oppix56/32/26099_2.png) [@Oppix56](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Oppix56)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/252 "2022-04-12T16:04:12Z")

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The site was pretty quiet when I walked by last week. Those 3 buildings are still there with no signs of activity.

I think there was some work being done on the Gilsey house on Broadway though

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/253 "2022-04-12T16:14:59Z")

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Thanks, Oppi. I rarely make it south of 42nd St these days.

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**Author:** ![bmosborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/bmosborne/32/78906_2.png) [@bmosborne](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bmosborne)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/254 "2022-04-13T15:50:14Z")

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I hope this gets canceled….

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/255 "2022-04-13T15:55:44Z")

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Van Barton is building a completely different project with a new architect. KPF rarely disappoints.

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**Author:** ![bmosborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/bmosborne/32/78906_2.png) [@bmosborne](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bmosborne)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/256 "2022-04-13T16:20:04Z")

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The massing of a 700 ft building would dismantle the aesthetics of the current neighborhood including the sight lines of the Empire State Building.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/257 "2022-04-13T16:25:18Z")

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I think that the sight lines for the ESB will be permanently doomed by 1,100’ 262 Fifth.

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**Author:** ![bmosborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/bmosborne/32/78906_2.png) [@bmosborne](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bmosborne)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/258 "2022-04-13T16:27:03Z")

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Let’s hope that gets canceled too.

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**Author:** ![bmosborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/bmosborne/32/78906_2.png) [@bmosborne](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bmosborne)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/259 "2022-04-13T16:28:17Z")

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Doesn’t the city council know they are dooming the ionic status of New York’s landmark when they approved these buildings at their heights? Why then do they want to cancel “Cuomo’s towers” and shorten 15 Penn Plaza and 175 Park Avenue?

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/260 "2022-04-13T16:38:20Z")

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Imagine if people complained about the Empire State building ruining the view of their favorite building at the time. Your comment and every other one about ESB sightlines hold exactly the same weight, none.

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**Author:** ![bpc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@bpc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bpc)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/261 "2022-04-13T17:08:07Z")

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Well the Empire State Building had good design.  
If this is a KPF tower, let it block whatever it wants. But the old renderings were disgraceful and didn’t deserve to take such a role in the skyline

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**Author:** ![bmosborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/bmosborne/32/78906_2.png) [@bmosborne](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bmosborne)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/262 "2022-04-13T17:25:07Z")

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If the Empire State Building is covered up, then what artistically does the skyline become? What would make it iconic?

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29th-st-5th-ave-ft-43-floors/217/263 "2022-04-13T17:29:07Z")

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You’re acting as if someone if putting a blanket over the building, just look at it from somewhere else. Also this ignores the many other significant NYC buildings

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