# NEW YORK | 29-33 West 57th St | FT | FLOORS

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**Category:** Proposed\
**Created:** [June 13, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145 "2014-06-13T16:30:15Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/1 "2014-06-13T16:30:16Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [NEW YORK | 57th Street Corridor “Billionaires Row” NEW](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-57th-street-corridor-billionaires-row-new/251):

## **[New chapter as demolition of Rizzoli Bookstore approved](http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/05/14/new-chapter-as-demolition-of-rizzoli-bookstore-approved/)**

**West 57th Street store attracted last-minute preservation efforts**

May 14, 2014 01:15PM  
By Zachary Kussin

_Rizzoli Bookstore at 31 West 57th Street_

> Call it a new chapter. Plans to fully demolish the Rizzoli Bookstore, which shuttered in April despite last-minute preservation efforts, and an adjacent building were filed and approved on Wednesday, according to Department of Buildings records.

> The LeFrak family and Vornado Realty Trust, which own the six-story building that Rizzoli formerly anchored at 31 West 57th Street, had filed plans to demolish the property along with two adjacent ones, as previously reported. **The pair plan to construct a high-rise condominium at the site** , according to previous reports.

> Today’s plans also included the demolition for building number 33.

> Rizzoli’s fate caught the attention of Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer, who wrote the city Landmarks Preservation Commission in March, urging them to hold a public hearing considering the landmarking of the site’s interior and exterior. Such a move would have saved the building from demolition. Brewer’s office also filed a request to give the building landmark status. The LPC, however, denied the bid.

> “It is important to note that if a building or interior is landmarked, the Commission does not regulate use,” a commission spokesperson told DNAinfo in April. “Therefore, a business — like a bookstore — can relocate at any time based on their specific lease agreements.”

> A representative for Vornado had no immediate comment. LeFrak did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment.

> “The Landmarks Preservation Commission does not have jurisdiction over 31 West 57th Street, as, after an extensive review, it was determined that the building does not meet the criteria for Landmark designation,” said the LPC in a written statement to The Real Deal.

> Rizzoli anchored the 109-year-old property for 29 years.

_[Daytonian in Manhattan](http://daytoninmanhattan.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-lost-juillard-mansion-no-11-west.html)_

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/2 "2014-09-11T18:28:19Z")

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> **[Vornado Chief Plans ‘Seven-Star Hotel’ By Central Park](https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-DVB-22403)**
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> Vornado chief executive Steven Roth said Tuesday the site of the now-closed Rizzoli Bookstore is “going to be a seven-star hotel.”

> Vornado chief executive Steven Roth said at an industry panel discussion Tuesday the site of the now-closed Rizzoli Bookstore at 31 West 57th Street, just south of Central Park, is **going to be “a seven-star hotel.”** Speaking at an event in Chicago held by law firm DLA Piper, he offered little other detail, and was responding to a question that suggested he was planning condominiums for the property.

> Only a handful of hotels around the world are billed as having seven stars, an unofficial way to connote extreme luxury.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/3 "2015-08-10T17:38:27Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/6/46625ccf2727585547664eb617c8e1e7bb3c5f7d.jpeg "29 W 57th Street, NYC, demolition, July 2015: future supertall tower by Shvo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPj6lVI9WiU)

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/4 "2015-09-29T11:45:36Z")

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interior Demo continues on No. 29, and part of the top is now gone.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/5 "2015-09-30T00:39:03Z")

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Today

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/6 "2015-10-07T23:18:03Z")

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Today

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/7 "2015-10-13T00:04:00Z")

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Oct 12th

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 10:29am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/8 "2015-10-27T10:29:32Z")

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Yesterday

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/9 "2015-11-13T01:45:21Z")

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Monday

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Assuming that the Park Lane remains to the west, this tower will have a clear view of Central Park.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/10 "2015-11-21T02:45:06Z")

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This building will be gone soon.

A 900’ Stern would sell out quickly in this location.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/11 "2015-12-03T13:01:40Z")

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It’s also its gone.

Yesterday

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/12 "2015-12-08T02:13:16Z")

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It’s almost gone!

After its huge success with 220 CPS, I think that Virnado will build something really nice here. I’m curious how tall it will be. I’m guessing somewhere between 500 and 900’.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/13 "2015-12-08T23:55:44Z")

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Today

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/14 "2015-12-09T00:06:08Z")

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I greatly look forward to this, the Hadassah site, and 123 West 57th!

P.S. Robert, I just got back from my 1st trip to Washington, D.C. I greatly enjoyed it, and it makes me look forward to NYC that much more!

Soon!

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/15 "2015-12-09T00:46:40Z")

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Great demo progress! I have a feeling that if this tower is only gonna be a super-luxury hotel, I can’t imagine it will be a supertall as it wouldn’t have that urgent need to maximize the views like the other towers in the general area. Maybe somewhere in the 700-900ft range. However, if it is gonna be mixed-use than I can honestly see this going full-on supertall hopefully at least 1,300-1,400ft as I have a feeling that the Park Lane tower will ultimately play a role into determining the final height because if the Park Lane tower uses the 900ft-ish design, then we’re potentially looking at the same kind of setup with 220 CPS and the Central Park Tower, as in the Park Lane tower will be the 220 CPS to this site’s Nordstrom essentially if they decide to go supertall.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/16 "2015-12-09T01:03:36Z")

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DC is great, Lion. It’s very unique. DC and Boston are my second favorite US cities, closely followed by SF and Philly.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/17 "2015-12-09T01:06:11Z")

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Hi, CityGuy.

I doubt that this will be only a hotel. I also doubt that it will exceed 900’-950’. For all we know, it has air rights only for about 600, though I doubt it.

This sits east of the Park Lane. I tried to show that in one of the photos.

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/18 "2015-12-11T16:20:19Z")

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DEC 10th

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[Midtown NYC, Dec 10th](https://flic.kr/p/BX1wvF) by [Reid Wilson](https://www.flickr.com/photos/137628648@N04/), on Flickr

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[Midtown NYC, Dec 10th](https://flic.kr/p/BUGS73) by [Reid Wilson](https://www.flickr.com/photos/137628648@N04/), on Flickr

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/19 "2015-12-12T03:49:29Z")

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Nice!

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-29-33-west-57th-st-ft-floors/145/20 "2015-12-16T02:05:52Z")

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It’s almost gone!

Dec 14, 2015

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