# NEW YORK | 275 Flatbush Ave | 293 FT | 27 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Under Construction\ **Created:** [September 4, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889 "2024-09-04T19:38:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![abot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/abot/32/122020_2.png) [@abot](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/abot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/1 "2024-09-04T19:38:25Z")
[https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-estate/jay-group-acquires-downtown-brooklyn-lots-625-million](https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-estate/jay-group-acquires-downtown-brooklyn-lots-625-million) Looks like a promising assemblage in Downtown Brooklyn, very close to the borough’s two tallest towers (Brooklyn Tower & Brooklyn Point). > Real estate firm The Jay Group, based in Bedford-Stuyvesant, has acquired several properties off of the busy Flatbush Avenue Extension for $62.5 million, according to [deeds](https://a836-acris.nyc.gov/DS/DocumentSearch/DocumentDetail?doc_id=2024082900551005) that appeared in the city register last week. The properties include 102 Fleet Place, 275 Flatbush Ave. Extension and 165 Willoughby St. > The transaction also included $12.5 million worth of air rights to be transferred from nearby 147 Pearl St. > The Jay Group has already filed plans with the Department of Buildings to demolish the 1-story structure currently occupying the roughly 10,000-square-foot site at 275 Flatbush Ave. Extension. The site: ![Screenshot 2024-09-04 153742](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/8/380494f08da31a985b1c5bf4cb28fca9a863df53.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![abot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/abot/32/122020_2.png) [@abot](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/abot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/2 "2024-09-04T20:36:12Z")
After some more digging: [https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2024/08/30/147-prince-brooklyn-office-housing-jay-group-nyc.html](https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2024/08/30/147-prince-brooklyn-office-housing-jay-group-nyc.html) Claims current zoning allows for up to 462,000 sq.ft. on a lot size of 39,000 sq.ft. By comparison Brooklyn Tower is 556,000 sq.ft. on 46,000 sq.ft. (Makes sense for 12 FAR limit) > **[Jacob Kohn Building More Multifamily in Downtown Brooklyn](https://commercialobserver.com/2024/09/jay-group-sale-multifamily-development-fleet-place-brooklyn/)** > > The Jay Group paid $75 million for six lots on Fleet Place where it plans to develop a residential building with about 500 apartments. Claims this will be a 500-unit project (no source). Brooklyn Tower is 550 units, Brooklyn Point is 458 units. ---
**Author:** ![AirlineFlyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@AirlineFlyer](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/AirlineFlyer)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/3 "2024-09-18T18:37:04Z")
Permits to demolish the current 1 story carwash building at Willoughby St & Flatbush Ave Ext and combine with adjacent lots on Fleet St have been filed. The proposed residential building going up in its place is 27 floors. “TOTAL: NINTY (90) CLASS A DWELLING UNITS & GENERAL RETAIL. THIS CERTIFICATE SHALL BE CONSIDERED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY UNDER SECTION 301 OF THE MULTIPLE DWELLING LAW. THIS ZONING LOT CONSISTS OF THE FOLLOWING TAX LOTS: # “6” (EXISTING 4 STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO REMAIN AT 147 PRINCE ST.),# “5” (EXISTING 2 STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO REMAIN AT 155 PRINCE ST.) # “1” (NEW LOT TO BE DEVELOPED UNDER THIS APPLICATION) & TAX LOTS # “18,19,21,& 24” (NEW TENTATIVE TAX LOT TO BE DEVELOPED UNDER SEPARATE APPLICATIONS). THESE PREMISES HAVE BEEN DECLARED TO BE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 12-10 ZONING RESOLUTION AS TO ZONING LOT OWNERSHIP AS WITH THE CITY REGISTERS OFFICE CRFN # 2024000227066, 2024000227067 & 2024000227068. LIGHT & AIR EASEMENT RECORDED UNDER CRFN # 2024000227065” ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/4 "2024-09-18T21:15:05Z")
Great! with that corner finally developed that whole section of Flatbush will look like a real city - a nice way to welcome people coming from the Manhattan bridge ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/5 "2024-09-19T03:11:44Z")
I think this is 275 Flatbush? > [@NEW YORK | 275 Flatbush Ave Ext | FT | 27 FLOORS](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-ext-ft-floors/23889): > > [https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-estate/jay-group-acquires-downtown-brooklyn-lots-625-million](https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-estate/jay-group-acquires-downtown-brooklyn-lots-625-million) Looks like a promising assemblage in Downtown Brooklyn, very close to the borough’s two tallest towers (Brooklyn Tower & Brooklyn Point). Real estate firm The Jay Group, based in Bedford-Stuyvesant, has acquired several properties off of the busy Flatbush Avenue Extension for $62.5 million, according to [deeds](https://a836-acris.nyc.gov/DS/DocumentSearch/DocumentDetail?doc_id=2024082900551005) that appeared in the city register last week. The properties include 102 Fleet Place, 275 … ---
**Author:** ![AirlineFlyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@AirlineFlyer](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/AirlineFlyer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/6 "2024-09-19T03:30:47Z")
Ah, yep! Indeed it is. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/7 "2024-09-19T18:26:52Z")
Welcome to our community, Jason! I enjoy all your tweets on “X”! Great updates on airline travel and NYC transit. ---
**Author:** ![AirlineFlyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@AirlineFlyer](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/AirlineFlyer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/8 "2024-09-19T18:38:21Z")
Thanks! And sorry my first post here is a duplicate of an existing post! Got tripped up by the many different addresses this property can be found under 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/9 "2024-09-24T22:58:53Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/0/909f9be03419c7e03a69805b3cd0355b7f469cd9.jpeg) > **[Jay Group files plans for 360 of 450 units at $75M Downtown Brooklyn site](https://www.pincusco.com/jay-group-files-plans-for-360-of-450-units-at-75m-downtown-brooklyn-site/)** > > Jacob Kohn’s Jay Group revealed plans this week to develop five 27-story towers each with ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/10 "2024-09-26T21:15:10Z")
Reference Filing Details: Job# B01097093 Filing# I1. Will give the scoop on the parcel via the DOB search. Building Height as defined in the Building Code 293 Building Stories as defined in the Building Code 27 90 total units per one 27 floor tower. Five total. Total of 450 units over 5 towers. Title update to: NEW YORK | 275 Flatbush Ave | 293 FT | 27 FLOORS (5 Towers) ---
**Author:** ![arctic\_camel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/arctic_camel/32/186335_2.png) [@arctic\_camel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/arctic_camel)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/11 "2024-09-27T10:45:08Z")
Where is there place for 5 towers ? ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/12 "2024-09-27T12:36:18Z")
I was confused at first too but in the zoning diagram Mackensen shared you can see the mass is “divided” into 5 different portions, not sure why theyre being distinguished as 5 different “towers” but its really 1 tower, maybe built in phases? Or that they will all look different? Strange wording. ---
**Author:** ![rbrome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/rbrome/32/5724_2.png) [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/13 "2024-09-27T15:09:21Z")
Yeah that is _really_ weird. That diagram does indeed show five adjacent “towers” that each seem to have their own elevator bank (based on the five machine rooms on the roof.) So I guess they could be five towers completely separated inside even though they touch. …Which would be the most wildly inefficient, expensive way to build a project like this that I can imagine. By comparison, 86 Fleet Place (on the same block) has 440 units with four passenger elevators and one pair of interlocking exit stairs. It looks like this assemblage would have at least 10 elevators, plus require **10 exit stairs**?! That’s a colossal waste of square footage, which means it’s financially idiotic. Even if they built this in phases, it would make way more sense to build later phases as _additions_ instead separate buildings. ---
**Author:** ![DTBKFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@DTBKFan](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/DTBKFan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/14 "2024-09-27T18:00:38Z")
There’s a reason… > **[Jay Group divides Downtown Brooklyn project into 90-unit buildings, avoiding...](https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/19/jay-group-tips-hand-on-downtown-brooklyn-project/)** > > The developer filed plans for a 27-story, 90-unit building on a site it acquired two weeks ago for $62.5 million. ---
**Author:** ![rbrome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/rbrome/32/5724_2.png) [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/15 "2024-09-27T19:50:21Z")
Oh FFS… Thanks for the link. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/16 "2024-09-28T22:08:04Z")
This bloke is like a piece of inexpensive ice-hockey equipment. What a cheapskate! ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/17 "2025-01-06T12:11:13Z")
[https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2025/01/demolition-finishes-for-forthcoming-450-unit-high-rise-at-275-flatbush-avenue-extension-in-downtown-brooklyn.html](https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2025/01/demolition-finishes-for-forthcoming-450-unit-high-rise-at-275-flatbush-avenue-extension-in-downtown-brooklyn.html) ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/18 "2025-01-16T00:34:28Z")
![1000030939](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/3/237c5b8449285db0cc4cc27ad511c1fe93d96c8b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/19 "2025-02-14T23:30:42Z")
Under construction The renderings don’t look too promising…that corner of Brooklyn is the bastard child ![IMG_9944](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/b/ab65cc7c671634a9ab7c2998a71ad2abbf5bad25.jpeg) ![IMG_9940](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/1/016b4d5fa5c717d28efcc6829f1a2509047135f4.jpeg) ![IMG_9942](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/b/3b43320481c8459c2ff89e9a3c30e428bb83e5a6.jpeg) ![IMG_9945](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/0/c029edabdcb111605b4b7f6b76f38217bf8dae79.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889/20 "2025-02-15T02:34:02Z")
> [@Alemel](#): > > The renderings don’t look too promising Well the means by which this tower is being built/financed (as mentioned earlier), I was never expecting much. This is almost worse than a Kaufman hotel/design if not equally as bad. You can visibly see the division of the 5 “towers” in the render. [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-275-flatbush-ave-293-ft-27-floors/23889.md?page=2)