# NEW YORK | 270 Park Ave | 1,389 FT | 70 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [February 21, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189 "2018-02-21T13:42:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 175
**Author:** ![TheBigApple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6de8d8/32.png) [@TheBigApple](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TheBigApple)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3575 "2023-07-14T01:32:16Z")
I have to ask, what camera do you use because I just love that type of sharp almost vintage look. ---
**Author:** ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3576 "2023-07-14T02:00:32Z")
I used to prefer Canon for their color but switched to Fuji a few years ago. The last set of shots were taken with the X-Pro2. Although I shoot RAW, Fuji has _excellent_ JPG presets. ---
**Author:** ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3577 "2023-07-14T02:29:18Z")
It really amazes me how they can build such a giant building in such a tight space with so much of every day living still going on all around. 5Bfilms, those pictures are dope! Congrats! ---
**Author:** ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3578 "2023-07-14T02:54:36Z")
Thanks @GSPLover ---
**Author:** ![Liminal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@Liminal](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Liminal)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 6:01am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3579 "2023-07-14T06:01:31Z")
@5Bfilms GREAT pictures. I especially love how in each photo you captured various stages of construction of different parts of the building. To me, they exude a sense of intimacy and serenity. ❤ ---
**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3580 "2023-07-14T12:12:30Z")
One of my buddies in Philly also switched to a Fuji. The images are really excellent, makes me want to get a film camera. Not to mention after almost six years of using my camera I have dead pixels ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3581 "2023-07-14T19:18:09Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/7/4723ec77bca2b28da1a5cdd2420bdcc260fffbb6.jpeg) Credit: [4k Life Studio](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-a3pQNlGiU&ab_channel=4KLifeStudio) ---
**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3583 "2023-07-17T14:59:49Z")
No Manhattanhenge last Thursday, but captured these while I was out: [![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/8/689c5dcbc18813826bfcf63e59bbb9f36eb1dbc7.jpeg "baronsonphoto-20230713-6") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/142716616@N06/53052538644/) [![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/8/a8c045594f7ad1a1ab360f4c2bd4af9c5c7f59cc.jpeg "baronsonphoto-20230713-4") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/142716616@N06/53052832678/) [![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/3/73d616168e7f7285bd5cc0c63efc6d00bbeff802.jpeg "baronsonphoto-20230713-5") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/142716616@N06/53052733090/) [![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/7/97cdc619056605ca25f27a5785210b34a1424a0e.jpeg "baronsonphoto-20230713-1") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/142716616@N06/53052832363/) [![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/d/4d070caab56f04b9d482d40a186ef01b65bd3139.jpeg "baronsonphoto-20230713-2") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/142716616@N06/53052538439/) [![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/a/ea892b1088891f6e76ea75070c2e475ecc8cea2b.jpeg "baronsonphoto-20230713-3") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/142716616@N06/53052733385/) ---
**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3584 "2023-07-17T15:30:30Z")
![Picsart_23-07-17_11-30-17-364](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/b/ab58034596b3189c98cc82094cd4e182026e3899.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Soupy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/soupy/32/17573_2.png) [@Soupy](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Soupy)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3585 "2023-07-17T15:59:47Z")
Thanks for the update! ---
**Author:** ![ramvid01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9dc877/32.png) [@ramvid01](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ramvid01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3586 "2023-07-17T16:05:57Z")
Great shots! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3587 "2023-07-17T18:40:33Z")
![IMG_2141](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/2/123e8314b898b42779f17be6f8c13b8fca7e5266.jpeg) [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuy0vc3LeVL/](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuy0vc3LeVL/) ![IMG_2142](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/9/69c6491e5001b0c1dc4738aa9a6d0da6b9f44725.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JRF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jrf/32/136878_2.png) [@JRF](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JRF)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3588 "2023-07-17T19:07:11Z")
still solid laminated columns at that height. building is a beast ---
**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3589 "2023-07-17T19:34:35Z")
Could you please explain what you mean by solid laminated columns? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3590 "2023-07-17T20:36:33Z")
JRF is refering to the type of composition of the steel column. It’s a number of long steel plates that are just welded together, you can see the striations/layers of plates in the column in the above image. Very akin to mass timber structures or CLT beams and columns. It’s not a very typical composition for columns, which are normally just H sections or HSS. ---
**Author:** ![IhateUSsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ihateussteel/32/24981_2.png) [@IhateUSsteel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/IhateUSsteel)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3591 "2023-07-18T00:00:31Z")
3am today ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/7/273a5450adc68163eed15fee885d4af8c5edcd19.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/8/a8bfefa30639bd42d6b71fcf2b9b8f0307e8c901.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/7/476862a406e29f97c33477b167330a28c6395b92.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/0/60256ec1e3d91c007482fc6c93751d6d50fad2c7.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/d/5ddb0e3189846bb11f13bc2a5bc9fc7c114ee7f6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SideStreet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/sidestreet/32/72746_2.png) [@SideStreet](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/SideStreet)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3592 "2023-07-18T10:56:53Z")
That’s the difference between someone who’s taken 2-3 mech engineering courses (like myself) and a fully trained/experienced professional. I would’ve looked at that photo and thought that’s a (probably hollow) steel box column made of plates welded together at the corners. Its insane to me that this building will use \>90K tons of steel. The original trade center towers used ~100K tons each and they were over 4M sf apiece. Obviously no lightweight floor trusses here though. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3593 "2023-07-18T18:17:07Z")
Being only a historian myself in the field of skyscraper construction and design, I’ll ask you. What exactly are solid laminated columns? What is the difference between them and conventional steel columns? As I read it, they are box columns, in cross section. Also, can laminated columns also carry more weight than regular steel columns? ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3594 "2023-07-18T18:18:59Z")
Box columns are another type of cross sectional steel composition. Laminated columns are completely solid in section, box columns are made of plates welded together to form a box with a hollow interior space and H sections are traditionally hot rolled. The cross sectional area of a column determines how much weight it can carry and it’s bending strength. ---
**Author:** ![JRF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jrf/32/136878_2.png) [@JRF](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JRF)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3595 "2023-07-18T18:19:15Z")
and an entirely different building code… structural protection of life safety systems, blast design considerations, updated seismic codes, etc. plus you factor in the unique podium that was about 25-30,000 tons of steel just to get up to the 3rd floor and you get to 95,000. tower A at hudson yards was also about 95,000 tons and had some similar unique challenges due to the limited touch points at the bottom of the building as well as special geometry. yes, a laminate column is a type of built up column. a built up column means that it is made out of plate material rather than a rolled section. built up columns can come in traditional H shapes, box shapes, cruciform shapes, (any kind of shape really) or in these exceptional circumstances, solid plate welded together. [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189.md?page=174) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189.md?page=176)