# NEW YORK | 270 Park Ave | 1,389 FT | 70 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [February 21, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189 "2018-02-21T13:42:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 149
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3029 "2023-03-19T19:09:11Z")
With a single unified lighting scheme I’d say no besides 425 as you mentioned when it is turned on. The closest I can think of would be 3 WTC, which is done with a bunch of separate lights. So yeah, this one would be the first “major” one to have such lights. ---
**Author:** ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3030 "2023-03-19T19:25:37Z")
Mmm…I say we let Texas and Asia keep their high profile lighting to themselves. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3031 "2023-03-19T19:28:43Z")
I say we don’t. For some reason developers think lightning is a joke in NYC ---
**Author:** ![SMCYB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/smcyb/32/71640_2.png) [@SMCYB](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/SMCYB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3032 "2023-03-19T19:48:56Z")
I don’t mind lighting as long as it’s classy and/or subtle. Less neon and more indirect lighting that doesn’t overpower night time photos of the skyline. This one in Dallas looks tacky to me. (My opinion. If you disagree, please do so without insulting me.) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/b/0bc99cd06e8f12080aa3c3b66904d94af79a200a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![arctic\_camel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/arctic_camel/32/186335_2.png) [@arctic\_camel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/arctic_camel)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3033 "2023-03-19T20:17:53Z")
more light pollution is really the last thing nyc needs ---
**Author:** ![Saucyboi123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/saucyboi123/32/28255_2.png) [@Saucyboi123](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Saucyboi123)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3034 "2023-03-19T20:19:05Z")
Richmond VA has a yearly event called “RVA Illuminates”. Most of the bigger buildings in downtown are outlined with lights that are turned on during the winter for the holiday season. I think it is a cool concept, I would love to see a larger city adopt this type of holiday lighting. ![lights 2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/2/22e2512a72668bc0d3e7343cd9d6801b01c93006.jpeg) ![lights 3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/5/15fd9fee422a534c9bc3377ad7403c91ff16423b.jpeg) ![bitchmond lights](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/2/12c866289e7da9d81b0286106f549a879f18ec6c.jpeg) Source: [wric.com](http://wric.com), [NBC12.com](http://NBC12.com) ---
**Author:** ![Saucyboi123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/saucyboi123/32/28255_2.png) [@Saucyboi123](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Saucyboi123)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3035 "2023-03-19T20:24:00Z")
It really puts the building massing into perspective imo ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3036 "2023-03-19T20:49:09Z")
I believe the Norfolk business district has similar lighting. It kind of makes the office buildings look like homes with christmas lights. ---
**Author:** ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3037 "2023-03-19T20:52:32Z")
Is every day St. Patricks Day in Dallas, or is that Olive Garden Tower? I totally agree, that is just plain hideous! ---
**Author:** ![rbrome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/rbrome/32/5724_2.png) [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3038 "2023-03-19T20:58:48Z")
That Turkish Consulate building did for a while, and it was red with animated pulses of white. I thought it was relatively classy. But either it broke or they turned it off after a few months. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3039 "2023-03-19T21:01:01Z")
That’s unfortunate. That strip with a red glow looked really good at night ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3040 "2023-03-19T21:11:02Z")
3 WTC’s nighttime lighting is an absolute failure in my honest opinion. It certainly had potential to look cool but it was executed rather terribly. The office lighting completely drowns it out from most vantages, much like The Spiral (although it’s visible from some angles). These towers do not look good at night at all. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3041 "2023-03-19T21:31:22Z")
> **[270 Park Avenue's Replacement Will Rise 1,400 Feet in Midtown East, Manhattan...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2018/11/270-park-avenues-replacement-will-rise-1400-feet-in-midtown-east-manhattan.html)** > > YIMBY has an exclusive first look at plans for JPMorgan Chase's new headquarters at 270 Park Avenue in Midtown East, Manhattan, expected to stand 1,400' tall Somehow I missed this and only found it when going through the wiki article about this development. I just find it interesting how tall this technically could have been (above CPT´s roof). Though I wouldn´t have actually wanted it to be that tall, as it looked pretty meh, and the materials in the only renders we got looked pretty standard. As opposed to this absolutely beautiful design we´ve gotten. ---
**Author:** ![paperx9999](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/paperx9999/32/128567_2.png) [@paperx9999](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/paperx9999)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3042 "2023-03-19T22:05:17Z")
TSX Broadway is going to have crazy facade lighting. Could be pretty cool if they do it right. ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3043 "2023-03-19T22:33:38Z")
Those were never actually real contenders of the design, they were only study massings (and study renders) to understand the no action and action options as determined by the maximum building envelope. 👍 @SMCYB I kind of agree with your sentiment about Dallas and am sure that is what @5Bfilms was refering to when he said Texas. That seems to be an old photo when the building was still lit using green colored argon filled tubes, it has since been updated with programmable LEDs in 2013 so it looks better and less over powering now. The green was used because it is more visible at night than any other color from a distance. Though this building will clearly be “outlined” by its lighting, since it is a non direct hidden lighting, I think it will look very nice. It’s just still a matter of how much it will be maintained because if portions of the lights start to go out and aren’t fixed, it’s not going to pook very good. ---
**Author:** ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3044 "2023-03-19T23:31:25Z")
That is exactly what I was thinking of @TKDV…the architectural equivalent of ‘all hat, no cattle’. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3045 "2023-03-20T13:34:27Z")
Chelsea Onyx. ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3046 "2023-03-21T02:36:11Z")
They started installing the 4th floor/row of cladding today. ---
**Author:** ![Emoglez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/emoglez/32/24448_2.png) [@Emoglez](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Emoglez)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3047 "2023-03-21T14:55:39Z")
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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189/3048 "2023-03-21T23:54:43Z")
The cranes are visible from New Jersey. I was out at the beach and I was able to spot them. (Hint: look behind Metlife) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/2/528ec900a64be76f8e15104e7a7faed89541a9e6.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/a/9a2ed2264731557156e66c2ac02a6ae708c6b93a.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189.md?page=148) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-270-park-ave-1-389-ft-70-floors/4189.md?page=150)