# NEW YORK | 262 Fifth Ave | 860 FT | 60 FLOORS

**URL:** https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777
**Category:** Under Construction
**Created:** [February 8, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777 "2016-02-08T14:22:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/607 "2023-08-13T13:55:31Z")

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Taken yesterday

 ![IMG_0166](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/f/2f6055a6261bd75e6da733ec534268d17b5d9bcf.jpeg)

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 ![IMG_0193](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/c/bc65e1552546103ab1e044b276e62370f8947378.jpeg)

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### Author: ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/608 "2023-08-13T21:11:57Z")

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Thanks for the pictures baronson. The 2nd picture makes me sad.

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### Author: ![Springboss123\_456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/springboss123_456/32/182744_2.png) [@Springboss123\_456](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Springboss123_456)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/609 "2023-08-17T00:56:17Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/d/6d427e686efc4825ce681b9eae2becd83c19cac0.jpeg)

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### Author: ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/610 "2023-08-21T00:16:54Z")

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![BCS_2023-08-20_GFX-049](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/d/ad6caf6a52819c461b841a5763320f0b17039e05.jpeg)

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### Author: ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/611 "2023-08-21T00:22:31Z")

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Lol what time did you take that, mightve passed eachother along the way 😆.

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### Author: ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/612 "2023-08-21T00:37:09Z")

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2pm - don’t tell me you were riding a float in the India Day Parade…because somebody did wave to me lol!

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### Author: ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/613 "2023-08-22T00:51:27Z")

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Missed you by a couple of hours then, so that definitely wasn’t me, 😆 I passed by about 2 or so hours later near 4.

I’d been a while since I intentionally walked by this building since it’s off my normal walking route, but I wanted to see if there were any possible signs of cladding, which there weren’t.

 ![DSC06237](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/c/ac6b0960c0c9c3242dbd7a655f10c32d7a0cd55b.jpeg)  
 ![DSC06245](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/b/6ba1e94e02e0386c50e0b3a2ff6581f0caa76f8c.jpeg)  
 ![DSC06246](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/0/201ca9455ca49864977296df66ede0876c40e1e9.jpeg)  
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The actual building is also now visible from Edge, it’s going to look like a stick.

 ![DSC06306](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/f/bf3fae4257cff1ffb391728893c32cb938722205.jpeg)

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#### Post date: [August 24, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/614 "2023-08-24T19:05:08Z")

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![IMG_2239](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/5/e510af8e2b372ce943a512f4942836afcedfdc0c.jpeg)

[https://www.instagram.com/p/CwLbwYiPo0P/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CwLbwYiPo0P/)

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### Author: ![Liminal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@Liminal](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Liminal)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/615 "2023-08-26T12:36:48Z")

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But no longer “ the best seat in the house” for the Empire State Building (referencing the poster in the photo).

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### Author: ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/616 "2023-08-26T14:09:02Z")

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The “Use Cases” section of this webpage offers some interesting details on the MEP Mechanical Electrical Plumbing systems; while also offers stunning graphic images of the completed building. I like this page a lot: a comprehensive look at the project from mechanical/structural details, as well as more general images of the overall completed project.

_Excerpt - \*  
 Based on the extensive utility installation knowledge of the utility installation, Nova bypassed subcontractors and created a coordinated layout for all the MEP systems, significantly accelerating the coordination process._

_Revit Capacity:_  
_Transformation of Architectural and Engineering CAD background into coordinated 3D Model substantially enhanced accuracy and allowed Developer to assume an active role in resolving design issues._

> **[262 5th Avenue](https://novaae.com/262_5th_avenue)**

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#### Post date: [August 26, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/617 "2023-08-26T20:55:56Z")

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This tower has gotten very narrow from it’s initial form. The original design has a height to width ratio of 1:18, and with it’s shortened and narrowed new form, it is now 1:22. So it will be 2nd narrowest building in the world (atleast that I can think of) since 111 West 57th St is 1:24.5 or so.

But this narrowing won’t/hasn’t really helped with anything relating to the ESB viewpoint because while it did narrow in footprint in both directions, the E/W faces were the most narrowed.

I wonder how the street level area will be designed.

 ![262_5th](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/b/8b96e6610eca17d3c33c058f5fe029e60857bd13.jpeg)

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#### Post date: [August 27, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/618 "2023-08-27T13:31:09Z")

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I’m guessing pretty straightforward.

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#### Post date: [August 27, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/619 "2023-08-27T14:31:51Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/7/b795097e060f5159baadfd83aa10fcc30cf79d02.jpeg)  
[Gary Hershorn](https://twitter.com/GaryHershorn/status/1694138466999615541)

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#### Post date: [August 27, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/620 "2023-08-27T15:32:32Z")

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![IMG_6245](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/2/72c8dfd2b3b90cf2e6d4b111366f56f5bcd25369.jpeg)

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#### Post date: [August 27, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/621 "2023-08-27T15:48:22Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/0/d00f961fb007468a028fae64fc25d18d405efc9c.jpeg)  
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#### Post date: [August 27, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/622 "2023-08-27T18:06:56Z")

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To the right of the ESB.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/b/5b608c4a598d6c8c12f06148a698944c6e79f280.jpeg)  
Credit: [The Dronalist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt-OhVlsC10&ab_channel=theDronalist)

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#### Post date: [August 30, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/623 "2023-08-30T22:19:59Z")

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From Madison sq park

 ![PXL_20230830_185755829~2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/0/d09ca1446ef87c1ea31f1764f6888b215c80907c.jpeg)

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#### Post date: [September 7, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/624 "2023-09-07T18:54:12Z")

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more photos by Mr. Hershorn:

> <https://twitter.com/GaryHershorn/status/1699635352254738771>

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#### Post date: [September 7, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/625 "2023-09-07T20:18:17Z")

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> [@Waymond\_Womano](#):
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> more photos by Mr. Hershorn:
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> [https://twitter.com/GaryHershorn/status/1699635352254738771](https://twitter.com/GaryHershorn/status/1699635352254738771)

Nice photos, silly complaint imho. I found an interesting article by someone who clearly also has complaints about this new tower, and would surely agree with Mr. Hershorn’s gripe.

I recall reading about many “wind sway” issues with 432 park - another tall, skinny - that apparantly was not designed/engineered properly: elevator stalls, pipes breaking, walls cracking, etc.

I think this building is the GREAT in term of the aesthetics; we will have to wait and see how the engineering, and “wind sway” issue pans out in the future after occupancy.

> **[Buildings can be too tall and too thin.](https://lloydalter.substack.com/p/buildings-can-be-too-tall-and-too)**
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> Yes, it is time for a big fat honking carbon tax on these ridiculous exercises in excess.

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#### Post date: [September 8, 2023, 5:14am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-262-fifth-ave-860-ft-60-floors/1777/627 "2023-09-08T05:14:17Z")

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Looking forward for this tower to top out soon. What’s the current height as of now?

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