# NEW YORK | 251 West 14th St | 120 FT | 11 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [September 25, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023 "2014-09-25T20:18:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/21 "2023-05-02T01:44:31Z")
No changes to the façade within the last two months. I wonder if this project has stalled yet again. > **[Exterior Work Continues on The Elisa at 251 West 14th Street in Chelsea,...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2023/05/exterior-work-continues-on-the-elisa-at-251-west-14th-street-in-chelsea-manhattan.html)** > > Exterior work is continuing on The Elisa, an 11-story, 25-unit project from Isay Weinfeld Architects at 251 West 14th Street in Chelsea, Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/22 "2023-05-02T13:47:55Z")
They’re in the process of demolishing the Southwest corner of 14th & 6th as well. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/23 "2023-05-02T17:42:15Z")
That would be this project here: > [@NEW YORK | 525 6th Ave | 13 Fl | Ft](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-525-6th-ave-13-fl-ft/22049/25): > > I’m elated to see this garbage come down. Still no rendering for that project, though. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/24 "2023-10-16T12:06:31Z")
> **[Facade Installation Nearing Completion On The Elisa At 251 West 14th Street...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2023/10/facade-installation-nearing-completion-on-the-elisa-at-251-west-14th-street-in-chelsea-manhattan.html)** > > Work continues on The Elisa by Isay Weinfeld Architects and Pizzarotti at 251 West 14th Street in Chelsea, Manhattan.  photos by Michael Young ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/6/064ca922962c9040bc8efe757f5abc88c86fb6ee.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/9/09aaf33170b0c594e39b032687891c640e32a8f6.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/c/9ca574fd8895c5818dd0e2c4e92a765f77636fd4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/25 "2023-10-16T12:35:28Z")
What is happening with those panels next to the windows that open like doors; but go nowhere. They look like solid panels that can open, but do not function as windows. Their use or purpose will become obvious at some point; but this is still an odd architectural feature. **Maybe we will be seeing some new innovative way to do windows?** > [@NEW YORK | 251 West 14th St | 120 FT | 11 FLOORS](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/24): > > photos by Michael Young Those ‘panels’ are clearly shown in the architectural renderings on the NY YIMBY feature article linked above; but I still, can not fathom what purpose they serve as a functional feature of the building. 😕 _Anyone in the know - please post…!_ ![IMG_2348](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/9/c91983d511d9dfb18b34712ab0d72e73834e1b91.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/26 "2023-10-16T13:41:03Z")
Correct me if I’m wrong but these windows have to slide a certain amount open, yes? Maybe builder decided to give more wall space in each apt. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/27 "2023-10-16T17:06:25Z")
They are the operable portion of the built up window, similar to those at 53rd W 53rd St. The bottom part is stationary and the upper half is the part that opens. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/28 "2023-10-16T19:53:08Z")
> [@stache](#): > > Maybe builder decided to give more wall space in each apt. 😕 Thanks to you and TKDV. I am still not getting how those things work, or the purpose. I may need to wait and see wen done. I will also go look a t 53 W 53rd - to get a better grasp… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/29 "2023-10-16T21:22:52Z")
Similar to 53W53rd they dont open up very much but to the code required angle. Here’s a render (there’s several renders that show them open but they all look the same from the inside). Apartments are required to have operable windows to allow fresh air in if needed/whenever wanted, these are functioning as those opening, just not in the normal instance of it being an actual window. ![49f180df4996f5e8499c44564aacc4b3-se_large_800_400](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/2/326a91a717706a4529a06f98a961e27a7e4d6ff9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/30 "2023-10-17T01:16:36Z")
So there is no screen? ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/31 "2023-10-17T01:32:22Z")
Like on a typical house window to prevent bugs/etc? There’s typically never screens on large scale residential projects that have either casement windows or unitized curtain panels, screens are really only ever on double hung windows because in that situation they _can_ be applied. Theres not really a good way to install a screen on a window that opens in or out rather than up or down. Im personally more interested in knowing how that spandrel panel is insulated because it looks paper thin. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/32 "2023-10-17T12:42:33Z")
Wow, that is a fantastic photo. Now I get-it. As the saying goes: “a picture says a thousand words”. It still seems a weird way to do a window… 😂 Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/33 "2023-11-02T22:03:47Z")
More photos of the panels > **[The Elisa relaunches sales on Isay Weinfeld-designed homes at the nexus of...](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/the-elisa-relaunches-sales-isay-weinfeld-designed-homes-nexus-chelsea-west-village/60404)** > > The Elisa, 251 West 14th Street, Chelsea : As downtown neighborhoods like Chelsea, the Meatpacking District, and Greenwich Village rise in popularity and value, it appears that every possible Photos by City Realty ![IMG_4419](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/3/13ac8292ec494d0dacc37c209adfe7678b628e29.jpeg) ![IMG_4418](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/4/64e282b6e3341ff4f90719002af78300b0a8b071.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/34 "2024-01-31T15:28:49Z")
> **[The Elisa Nears Completion at 251 West 14th Street in Chelsea, Manhattan -...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2024/01/the-elisa-nears-completion-at-251-west-14th-street-in-chelsea-manhattan.html)** > > Work is nearing completion on The Elisa, an 11-story, 25-unit project from Isay Weinfeld Architects at 251 West 14th Street in Chelsea, Manhattan. Photo by Michael Young ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/9/b95a6145b394fd98e500f1db52eba6f141bdf417.jpeg) ---
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Excellent as usual. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/37 "2024-11-07T22:09:26Z")
**This one is finally complete.** 🤩 The is a nice enough looking work of architecture; and the interiors are exceptional. I find those blank metal panels next to each window a bit odd looking: but apparently they serve some sort of function. I think the idea is to provide an operable door to let in fresh air; without the need to create separate operable window panes that would divide-up the large single pane windows. One of the largest “Single Pane” windows in NYC. The mullion-free (unobstructed windows) are gaining popularity as I am seeing them quite often lately. The celebrity broker here does well in describing this apartment; and mentions those large **single pane** windows - “the largest in NYC”. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/0/c0461238b4944e4a20fdc7b5ef150f91a889ad0c.jpeg "INSIDE a NEW Downtown NYC Apartment w/ Ryan Serhant | The Elisa, 251 W 14 St | SERHANT. New Dev Tour") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyE4ziZvZkY) ![IMG_7851](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/7/0769133f200a241170ab67316671f62840f5d30b.jpeg) BTW - _I have 5 posts on this topic. Please click on my **infoshare** tag above to see my other comments/photos/links._ ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/38 "2024-11-07T22:50:56Z")
Lol, those are definitely not the largest windows in the city, that would definitely go to 660 5th Ave. The window units on 432 Park also relatively large, maybe not as big as here though, so maybe they are the biggest residential windows. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/39 "2024-11-08T12:32:18Z")
> [@TKDV](#): > > so maybe they are the biggest residential windows. Yes, that may be the case. I played video again, he did say “one of the largest, residential windows”. I am mainly curious about those blank panels next to each of the window. Those door panels create a deep recess on the facade that almost look like Juliette balconies: but they obviously do not have that function, no railing. I will accept the RE brokers claim in the video about those being the Largest Windows; but he should have also mentioned that other unusual feature of the windows - **namely those blank panels on the side.** I have looked on the website, and a few other places; and not have found any explanation. It is truly an odd feature; not something I have ever seen done before in NYC. _I will post if I find an answer - and I trust there is a good one._ ![IMG_7850 3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/5/350b500563146a355a863c768a0a4b3f53b5d7d4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023/40 "2024-11-08T13:02:50Z")
I’m relatively certain we had already discussed the side panels, they are just the operable portion of the window component. There are several renders and construction photos that show them ajar, and the plans also show them with window swings. They function no differently than the operable panels at 53W53rd. Residential buildings are required to meet a specific window:wall ratio. Even buildings like Central Park Tower, though seemingly all glass from the outside, have non vision windows that are fully backpanned to meet that requirement. The metal panels here are meeting that requirement while also functioning as the required operable portion of the exterior wall to let fresh air into the units when needed/wanted. [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-251-west-14th-st-120-ft-11-floors/1023.md?page=3)