# NEW YORK | 200 Amsterdam Ave | 668 FT | 55 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [January 13, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395 "2015-01-13T02:26:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/642 "2020-12-22T23:22:47Z")
I think that WNY should RIP. We’re all here now, and this is the premier site. ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/643 "2020-12-24T15:24:42Z")
The growth has been incredible. I think the decline of SSC has helped as well. Well, I say, the folks that love and want to intellectually discuss NY projects and the region (and cities in general) are all welcomed here. At the end of the day, the success is all because of its members, so happy holidays everyone! 🍻🎅 ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/644 "2020-12-24T15:37:24Z")
Yimby, himself, provided the impetus for a great site by his unparalleled scoops. For example, he provided renderings for One Central Park and 270 Park, among other projects, before anyone. He’s the Walter Cronkite of NY skyscraper news. The great forum members are the icing on the cake. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/645 "2021-01-03T02:59:46Z")
1.2.21 ![PXL_20210102_183836097~2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/8/184017e222e56f4d87d4ce471e027024237df2f2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/646 "2021-01-16T04:13:02Z")
1.15.21 ![PXL_20210115_174724763~2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/2/c2e306e6169871f555d0515118157fb989417306.jpeg) ![PXL_20210115_174850769~2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/a/9a8285c5d91b4c68aedb3edad013752c5313394c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/647 "2021-01-16T20:12:54Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/0/f09aea1a60a2467046c21bc36b15c8c3fb7ba193.jpeg) [https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ4gF9TpqO6/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ4gF9TpqO6/) ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/648 "2021-02-03T18:53:04Z")
[![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/3/73493d41e150d24f6e4299d6161c68f6776994bb.jpeg "L1030121-1") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/164951173@N06/50899491546/) Pic by Raffi DerHovanessian on Flickr ---
**Author:** ![Springboss123\_456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/springboss123_456/32/182744_2.png) [@Springboss123\_456](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Springboss123_456)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/649 "2021-02-05T01:22:04Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/8/18f541cb984a888e7a07035ca9b53e8bae12c064.jpeg) Lighting scheme ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/650 "2021-02-05T13:23:00Z")
The financial repercussions of the zoning regulation challenge must be astronomical for this project. There is something in RE finance called “loan-to-value-ratio” that qualifies a developer to get funding, and obviates any eventual foreclosure action taken by the lender. The ‘sell-out value’ of any project must be greater than the construction and debt service costs; this zoning challenge must have rendered this project a bust…😑 I hope the news on the legal proceedings - and financial repercussions for the developer - will eventually become public information; but as of now there is no new news that I can find. This ‘height chop’ story was once covered in every minute detail in the real estate news: this story has gone dormant. I can’t say too much on such delicate issues: or I will end up getting ‘shadow banned’… 😒 ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/651 "2021-02-05T13:38:38Z")
Infoshare—The story is dormant because the courts are so ridiculously slow. Everyone is waiting on the appellate court to deliver its long awaited opinion. Once that happens there will be a deluge of reports. Then it will go dormant again if the case is taken to the NY Court of Appeals and, if the cut off floors result is affirmed there, to SCOTUS. ---
**Author:** ![Tectonic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tectonic/32/186763_2.png) [@Tectonic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tectonic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/652 "2021-02-11T01:13:45Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/e/1eedfff13f6804b7ea167b0b8a4f055f989a0ac1.jpeg) Tectonic ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/653 "2021-02-11T14:40:35Z")
More snow… ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/654 "2021-02-11T14:51:44Z")
That entry way facade is looks quite luxurious. It seems all the legal wrangling about this building has distracted from noticing that this is one beautifully designed building. Terrific photo. That blanket of freshly driven snow out front sure helps to enhance the look of this building’s grand entrance lobby. ---
**Author:** ![bpc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@bpc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bpc)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/655 "2021-02-11T15:02:57Z")
Agreed. A stunning entryway that exceeds this building’s market position— this front is reminiscent of 220 CPS or the Waldorf Astoria renovation. Very impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Springboss123\_456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/springboss123_456/32/182744_2.png) [@Springboss123\_456](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Springboss123_456)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/657 "2021-02-21T00:04:20Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/f/6f7d8da85cb0234138cdffe39716cc9c3c2b0de7.jpeg) [https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ8oXThJNbm/?igshid=1sgb6yep65h9r](https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ8oXThJNbm/?igshid=1sgb6yep65h9r) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/0/80cf69784fbffc09fb89302a2f71de51e7d4f2cf.jpeg) [https://www.instagram.com/p/CIRlaM6LdkS/?igshid=1hos0mu3da17l](https://www.instagram.com/p/CIRlaM6LdkS/?igshid=1hos0mu3da17l) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/d/dd805cb8f7c0c5e468453571502aa9ecd7f3e6f7.jpeg) [https://www.instagram.com/p/CKL7NJNJTP3/?igshid=8fjcsc0v2113](https://www.instagram.com/p/CKL7NJNJTP3/?igshid=8fjcsc0v2113) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/f/0fe4403b7dfe8906a5366339097af373c55df3cc.jpeg) [https://www.instagram.com/p/CLKI-TygLdA/?igshid=1fne4wf1d6dkk](https://www.instagram.com/p/CLKI-TygLdA/?igshid=1fne4wf1d6dkk) ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/658 "2021-03-02T18:23:43Z")
> **[Developers Won’t Have to Chop Off Floors of 200 Amsterdam Avenue](https://commercialobserver.com/2021/03/developers-wont-have-to-chop-off-floors-of-200-amsterdam-avenue/)** > > A New York state appeals court rejected a state judge’s decision that would have forced a nearly 20-floor reduction of 200 Amsterdam Avenue. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/659 "2021-03-02T19:04:45Z")
Sanity has prevailed!!! ---
**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/660 "2021-03-02T19:13:51Z")
Kind of a “duh” ruling. This was never a controversy, it was a stalling/punishing tactic by wealthy UWS NIMBYs. It’s happened before, and will happen again, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/661 "2021-03-02T19:13:55Z")
Great news, amazing it took a year to get this ruling. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395/662 "2021-03-02T21:05:38Z")
Yes, that is a DUH result; but we will never know if there were yet still some other ‘agendas’ served by this silly saga. If you ask me, it all ‘smells’ - but beyond that I care not to inquire further. 😉 Here is my take away, admittedly takin directly form the article posted above: Judge Perry - “should have deferred to the BSA’s rational interpretation”. Here is a YouTube intro to Justice Perry: seems like a nice man. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/a/8afb66671ba4d18e49648e6abf970ebdc4cb4df4.jpeg "MBBA 2019 Black History Judges Event - Justice W. Franc Perry") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tmRY0Egar8) All is well, that ends well. I am glad this thread has gotten the much needed closure on this case. [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395.md?page=31) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-200-amsterdam-ave-668-ft-55-floors/1395.md?page=33)