# NEW YORK | 19 Dutch Street | 758 FT | 63 FLOORS
**URL:** https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116
**Category:** Completed
**Created:** [June 11, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116 "2014-06-11T23:21:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/42 "2016-10-25T15:08:39Z")
Ah. So the type that moves up with the building, instead of just adding sections?
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### Author:  [@nyc1](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/nyc1)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/43 "2016-10-25T15:31:22Z")
Yeah pretty much, but like I said I haven’t seen the crane in person so idk yet.
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/44 "2016-10-25T19:53:51Z")
Does this help?
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/45 "2016-10-25T19:54:43Z")
Rebar is reaching way up in the air now.
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/46 "2016-10-25T21:51:59Z")
Credits: @Sero91ls He got a picture too!
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### Author:  [@nyc1](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/nyc1)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/47 "2016-10-25T23:46:53Z")
Yeah its an inner climbing crane. So it will rise within and with the building.
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### Author:  [@mchlanglo793](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mchlanglo793)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/48 "2016-10-27T17:42:29Z")
So is there an official render for this building? I have been mixed up about the final cladding of the building and how it’s going to look. Nice feeling to see progress though!
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/49 "2016-10-28T21:43:12Z")
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/50 "2016-11-01T22:54:37Z")
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### Author:  [@nyc1](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/nyc1)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/51 "2016-11-02T02:44:23Z")
Nice update!
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### Author:  [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/52 "2016-11-03T02:38:46Z")
Found some newer renderings on carmel’s website, including a couple closeup shots of the cladding at street level which looks good. The larger rendering of the entire building is still a bit boring and appears to be a blend of a couple other renderings we have seen in the past. I like the closeup shots though.
> **[19 Dutch - Carmel Partners](https://www.carmelpartners.com/property/19-dutch/)**
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> Focused on creating value by investing in multifamily real estate within the nation’s most desirable markets.
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/53 "2016-11-03T02:53:06Z")
19 Dutch eh
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/54 "2016-11-03T02:57:28Z")
Good find! Thanks!
Those newer renderings make it look like the white stripes are glass instead of the metal panels that I had assumed. That would be a big improvement. I hope that is, in fact, the material.
With dark dividers and white glass between many floors, it may end up looking much like the conversion in progress a few blocks away at 180 Water St (John & Water). That’s shaping up to look OK.
The _pattern_ still looks downright childish, which is a shame. Just re-arranging the white vs. dark panels into different pattern could make this building look dramatically better. I hope someone over there realizes that before it’s too late.
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### Author:  [@mchlanglo793](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mchlanglo793)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/55 "2016-11-03T03:11:16Z")
Thank you so much for finding!
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### Author:  [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/56 "2016-11-03T16:44:07Z")
perfectly bland to fit right in with most of the financial district.
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### Author:  [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/57 "2016-11-03T17:39:45Z")
It aspires to perfect blandness, but falls short of the mark due to the stripe pattern.
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### Author:  [@hunser](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/hunser)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/58 "2016-11-03T20:22:14Z")
This is 758’ /231m per DOB: [http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=122846812&passdocnumber=01](http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=122846812&passdocnumber=01)
Date Filed: 10/27/2016
Building Height (ft.): 758
Building Stories: 63
Dwelling Units: 482
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/59 "2016-11-03T21:38:55Z")
Photo by @Sero91ls
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### Author:  [@nyc1](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/nyc1)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/60 "2016-11-03T23:47:41Z")
This is moving fast!!
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-19-dutch-street-758-ft-63-floors/116/61 "2016-11-04T00:02:15Z")
It really is. After taking _a whole year_ to drill the pilings, they may be trying to make up time.
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