# NEW YORK | 1651 First Avenue | FT | FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Proposed\ **Created:** [December 6, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689 "2018-12-06T04:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/1 "2018-12-06T04:58:00Z")
> **[Extell Files Demolition Permits For 1651 1st Avenue in Yorkville, Manhattan -...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2018/12/extell-files-demolition-permits-for-1651-1st-avenue-in-yorkville-manhattan.html)** > > YIMBY has the scoop on the latest permit applications for 1651 1st Avenue in Yorkville, Manhattan where demolition will begin on a 6-story walkup. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/2 "2019-04-12T13:42:36Z")
Behind 1651 first, along 86th Street is a large empty lot and you can see from here and first ave that a long stretch of tenements are boarded up. Maybe Extell is working to expand the size of this site. This could be pretty big if they take all the other abandoned tenements on first ave plus the 86th lot. ![IMG_20190411_153935](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/a/4aab221e9b844b66b986c13f92af320041d46109.jpeg) ![IMG_20190411_153929](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/0/10aa9822cebeb928b1d48d717c54d8df76455f4e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TravisSolomon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/travissolomon/32/32006_2.png) [@TravisSolomon](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TravisSolomon)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/3 "2019-08-23T04:21:16Z")
From the picture it seems that there may be a residential areas beneath it. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/4 "2019-08-23T12:07:58Z")
As a longtime resident of Yorkville, I think that the area is a dump. We lived there because my wife liked it. I can’t see spending millions on a new apartment situated next to filthy tenements and heinous 1970s eyesores. ---
**Author:** ![TravisSolomon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/travissolomon/32/32006_2.png) [@TravisSolomon](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TravisSolomon)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/5 "2019-08-24T09:11:29Z")
> [@robertwalpole](#): > > dump Well, if the area is like dump nobody like to live there as it may be harmful. Let it be fully ready for the people. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/6 "2019-08-24T10:21:32Z")
What you talkin’ About, Willis? ---
**Author:** ![City\_Streets](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/city_streets/32/17292_2.png) [@City\_Streets](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/City_Streets)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/7 "2019-09-16T17:43:19Z")
The best station on the Q (2nd ave subway) is a block away. That area is dumpy now but prime for new development. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/8 "2021-11-22T20:39:57Z")
> **[Extell Files Permits for 22-Story Tower at 1637 First Avenue on the Upper...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2021/11/extell-files-permits-for-22-story-tower-at-1637-first-avenue-on-the-upper-east-side-manhattan.html)** > > YIMBY has the latest permits filed for a 22-story mixed-use building at 1637 First Avenue on Manhattan's Upper East Side. ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/9 "2021-11-22T23:52:33Z")
> **[Extell UES Development Working Around Tenant Holdouts](https://therealdeal.com/2021/11/22/extell-to-build-ues-building-around-2-occupant-holdouts/)** > > Extell Development is planning a 22-story building on First Avenue with an L-shaped design to avoid hodouts from two properties it failed to acquire. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/10 "2022-06-13T14:22:15Z")
> **[Extell Lands $125M Loan for UES Resi Tower Project](https://therealdeal.com/2022/06/13/extell-lands-125m-loan-for-ues-resi-project/)** > > Extell Development landed financing from German bank Helaba for its Upper East Side residential project at 1637 First Avenue. ---
**Author:** ![abot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/abot/32/122020_2.png) [@abot](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/abot)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1651-first-avenue-ft-floors/4689/11 "2024-11-26T14:40:13Z")
I have sympathy for rent-stabilized tenants in situations where they are pressured to leave so that landlords can charge market rate for their apartments. However, in a situation like this where a single holdout is getting in the way of over 500 units of housing (incl. 100 affordable, and likely more if Extell is able to redesign this tower to include the corner lot), and they have the audacity to decry the developer as perpetuating the housing crisis, that sympathy is lost. > **[Extell scores win in fight against state, holdout tenant](https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2023/04/11/extell-scores-win-in-fight-against-state-holdout-tenant/)** > > An appeals court ruled Extell can demolish 1651 First Avenue. The state’s Housing and Community Renewal sided with a holdout tenant. > A state appellate court has sided with his firm’s quest to evict a rent-regulated tenant at 1651 First Avenue. The tenant and other holdouts had caused Extell Development to design around their buildings. In November 2021, Extell [filed plans](https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2021/11/22/extell-to-build-ues-building-around-2-occupant-holdouts/) for a 22-story building featuring 543 apartments and commercial space. > **[“Blame Gary”: Holdout tenant targets Extell’s Barnett with $200K campaign](https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/01/30/gary-barnetts-holdout-will-not-fold/)** > > Gary Barnett’s battle with a rent-stabilized holdout blocking his planned development at 1651 First Avenue launched a $200,000 campaign against the developer. > After the Appellate Division’s ruling, Marshall held out hope that the Court of Appeals would take his case. But the high court rarely hears appeals of unanimous rulings, and Marshall was turned down in November. The Office of Rent Administration then notified the parties in the case that it would re-open Extell’s demolition application. > Rejection by the high court is usually the end of a case, but Fred Seeman, Marshall’s attorney, said in a statement, “We have many legal options ahead and we will leave no stone unturned in our pursuit of justice.” He did not offer specifics.