# NEW YORK | 14 Fifth Ave | 241 FT | 19 FLOORS

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017>\
**Category:** Completed\
**Created:** [October 27, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017 "2017-10-27T12:15:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/21 "2021-05-14T18:35:44Z")

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I do understand why one would not be a fan of RAMSA; despite the fact that every building they design is a crowd pleasing success. Historical recreations in Architecture are not only an anachronism, they are somewhat unimaginative for their lack of originality: but darn, they are always so pretty.

I like this new building design because it is ‘pretty’ and it represents a victory over one of the worst NIMBY’s on earth - Andrew Berman. 😉

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/22 "2021-05-14T18:49:28Z")

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I like the latest design the best. Stern always designs masterpieces.

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**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/23 "2021-05-14T19:11:11Z")

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Stern is having a nice run. 555 W 22nd, 1228 Madison, 200 E 83rd, 150 E 78, 100 Claremont, 14 5th Ave., probably 1165 Madison.

What’s left? The coup de grace would be the Helmsley Park Lane.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/24 "2021-05-14T19:14:59Z")

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I think that all remaining 57th St condo sites should be designed by Stern.

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**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/25 "2021-05-14T20:22:30Z")

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Sure RAMSA builds throwback buildings. But that doesn’t mean they are not modern in many ways. The stuff is almost always asymmetrical. The windows are much larger than in older buildings. Respect for the surrounding structures is amazingly good, not only in massing, but also in materials. Interiors always overflow with new touches, materials, and equipment. Contextual architecture like RAMSA’s can be boring and repetitive, qualities his buildings never display. There is context and there is high quality context as in this firm’s designs. This sort of architecture should always be welcomed in periods like this when glass facades have become cliches.

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**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/26 "2021-05-17T15:03:27Z")

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More angles:

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/27 "2021-05-17T15:07:20Z")

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I love it!

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**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/28 "2021-07-31T03:23:39Z")

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> **[Demo Permits Make Way for RAMSA-Designed Tower at 14 Fifth Avenue in...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2021/07/demo-permits-make-way-for-ramsa-designed-tower-at-14-fifth-avenue-in-greenwich-village-manhattan.html)**
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> Demo permits were filed for 14 Fifth Avenue in Manhattan's Greenwich Village, site of a planned 19-story residential tower from RAMSA and Hill West.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/29 "2021-09-05T14:09:04Z")

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I can’t wait for this PoS to come down.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/30 "2022-06-16T23:49:21Z")

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I wonder when this is coming down.

[https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByLocationServlet?requestid=1&allbin=1009430](https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByLocationServlet?requestid=1&allbin=1009430)

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**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/31 "2022-06-18T15:13:41Z")

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Can’t imagine this project would just stall out after they fought for years to get it approved.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/32 "2022-06-18T15:14:39Z")

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I agree. This is going to be very successful.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/33 "2022-08-10T13:42:55Z")

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“Mr. Gorbachev: Tear down this [garbage]!”

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/c/ccdc05e1098c4d3a83c55abd2b3e1465254970f4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/34 "2022-08-10T14:25:20Z")

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Nice to see another Stern go up now that their uptown projects are finishing up.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/35 "2022-09-02T11:06:41Z")

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I walked by here recently, and demo is proceeding quickly. This PoS should come down in its entirety soon.

This is going to be gorgeous.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/0/a002e64de6d3c288280cfd4e4bab7638d05cdfbe.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/36 "2022-09-18T14:13:14Z")

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Good riddance!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/d/0da17fb2f17e652f5a0a54bc88a08cdfc639a583.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/37 "2022-11-02T12:07:08Z")

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This tower is going to be a beautiful addition to this GORGEOUS area.

Another great article by YIMBY!

> **[Foundation Work Begins for RAMSA's 14 Fifth Avenue in Greenwich Village,...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2022/11/foundation-work-begins-for-ramsas-14-fifth-avenue-in-greenwich-village-manhattan.html)**
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> Foundation work has begun at 14 Fifth Avenue, site of a 19-story, 20-unit project from RAMSA, Hill West, and Madison Realty Capital in Greenwich Village.

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**Author:** ![algonyc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/algonyc/32/91624_2.png) [@algonyc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/algonyc)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/38 "2022-11-03T12:07:18Z")

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Perfect architect & design for that stretch of 5th.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/39 "2023-01-11T17:59:14Z")

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This is going to be WILDLY successful.

> **[Madison Realty Capital Gets $105M Loan for Village Condos](https://therealdeal.com/2023/01/11/madison-realty-capital-lands-105m-for-greenwich-village-condos/)**
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> Madison Realty Capital landed a $105 million construction loan for a 14-unit condo project in Greenwich Village that had faced opposition.

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**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/40 "2023-02-22T16:28:15Z")

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> **[Damaged historic 5th Ave. building to be shored up; Stop-work order on luxe...](https://thevillagesun.com/damaged-historic-5th-ave-building-to-be-shored-up-as-stop-work-order-on-luxe-sliver-tower-still-in-effect)**
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> BY LINCOLN ANDERSON | Following Saturday’s latest construction-caused crisis in Greenwich Village — this time at Eighth Street and Fifth Avenue — word is that…

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