# NEW YORK | 14 Fifth Ave | 241 FT | 19 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [October 27, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017 "2017-10-27T12:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/1 "2017-10-27T12:15:35Z")
Another great scoop by Yimby! This stretch of Fifth is stunning but for the filthy, tumor located at 14 Fifth Avenue. I’ve always hated that building. Not only are there plans to redevelop it, but the plan includes an ABSOLUTELY STUNNING tower by Stern. [https://newyorkyimby.com/2017/10/reveal-for-robert-a-m-stern-designed-tower-planned-for-14-fifth-avenue-greenwich-village.html](https://newyorkyimby.com/2017/10/reveal-for-robert-a-m-stern-designed-tower-planned-for-14-fifth-avenue-greenwich-village.html) ---
**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/2 "2017-10-27T13:07:27Z")
Lovely!! ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/3 "2017-10-28T02:20:10Z")
**ALERT** : Andrew Berman, the very nasty control freak who runs the Greenwich Village’s main NIMBY group, is gearing up to unleash the NIMBY hordes on the Landmarks Preservation Commission at the hearing for this project. Anyone who is in favor of this should show up to the LPC meetings to counter him. Stay tuned on this thread for info on the meetings. This guy stole YIMBY’s scoop and ran it on his own blog without attribution, including the exclusive pictures YIMBY obtained. And he’s making posters taking the pics out of context to scare people into opposing this project. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/4 "2017-10-28T12:25:40Z")
This was inevitable. When preservationists wanted to save the beautiful little building on 5th and 32nd, they were shot down. The shmuck “So Low” will raze four STUNNING buildings on 57th with carte blanche and replace them with a lame glass box. The putzes at Trinity Church razed a gorgeous old building to replace it with a lame glass box. Ziel Friedman razed that gorgeous building on W 29th with impunity. These guys want to replace a heinous eyesore with something amazing, and they get opposed!! This is the same moronic thinking that wasted our chance of getting Amazon. Chicago, Philly, Atl., etc offer billions in incentives, and we offer nothing! ---
**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/5 "2017-10-31T03:32:56Z")
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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/6 "2019-01-14T14:07:37Z")
I hope that this POS gets redeveloped. Stern’s proposal is stunning. P.S.: My Amazon prediction was flat wrong though! ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/7 "2019-01-14T16:30:12Z")
if a 360 footer can rise in DUMBO, they might actually be able to get it done here. No news recently though, which doesn’t bode well. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/8 "2019-01-14T16:44:49Z")
The heinous POS currently there is the only eyesore on this otherwise stunning portion of 5th. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/9 "2019-12-11T11:30:43Z")
I don’t know what’s rising here, but I’m glad that those two little garbage buildings will be razed. They’re among the few eyesores in this gorgeous area. > **[Madison Realty Capital Plans Fifth Avenue Condo Building](https://therealdeal.com/2019/12/10/madison-realty-capital-planning-condo-building-by-madison-square-park/)** > > Madison Realty Capital is planning to develop a condo building on Fifth Avenue. ---
**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/10 "2019-12-11T16:19:13Z")
That article is all over the place. It says this building will be by Madison Square Park, but the address is obviously far south of the park. And the quote from the developer is about how they’re looking forward to working with the people of Greenwich Village. Plenty of chances to take a hint. Anyway, you get a good idea what’s coming. 21 floors but only 18 units. This will be mansions. Maybe not the Stern design, but something extremely expensive. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/11 "2019-12-11T17:01:43Z")
I agree. The article is poorly written. The photo also shows beautiful old buildings on Fifth across from Madison Square, which, fortunately, are not the site. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/12 "2019-12-12T15:46:55Z")
This is what happens when humans are not involved with journalism. 🙁 ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/13 "2020-01-21T13:49:07Z")
I sincerely hope that Berman doesn’t block this project. These eyesores are hideous. > **[From Civil War generals to Oscar winners: 7 historic figures who called 14-16...](https://www.6sqft.com/from-civil-war-generals-to-oscar-winners-7-historic-figures-who-called-14-16-fifth-avenue-home/)** > > Throughout its 170-year history, 14-16 Fifth Avenue was home to Civil War generals, Gold Rush writers, Oscar-winning actors, railroad magnates, pioneering industrialists, inventors, and politicians. What follows is just some of the history behind... ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/14 "2021-03-07T22:58:24Z")
looks great, but the 2019 design looks better. > **[16 Fifth Avenue to go before Landmarks; RAMSA-designed tower to feature...](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/16-fifth-avenue-go-before-landmarks-ramsa-designed-tower-feature-floor-through-homes-near-washington-square-park/49362)** > > 16 Fifth Avenue, Greenwich Village : The Landmarks Preservation Commission will hear a proposal to raze a five-story apartment building at 14-16 Fifth Avenue and redevelop it with a ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/c/8c891fef679f3717bd00bf090135d09283ba2694.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/b/9b47cdf56d8c753fa10af9efab7d5656e571a88e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HerrDavid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f07891/32.png) [@HerrDavid](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/HerrDavid)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/15 "2021-03-07T23:10:58Z")
Much prefer this new version myself. It’s more Candela-esque, which is _always_ a good thing in my book. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/16 "2021-03-08T00:23:35Z")
I preferred the earlier versions, but this is still stunning. I want the sole eyesore on this stunning stretch razed ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/17 "2021-03-08T00:46:28Z")
The Palladian temple in the sky would have had nice synergy with the Washington Square arch, also the piercing spire of 1 5th ave. In any case, this is a beautiful proposal. It’ll get killed by Village nimbys. ---
**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/18 "2021-05-14T17:35:25Z")
Approved by a narrow 6-5 vote with alterations and height reduction: > **[170-year-old Greenwich Village buildings will be razed and replaced with...](https://www.6sqft.com/170-year-old-greenwich-village-buildings-will-be-razed-and-replaced-with-high-rise-condo-tower/?_ct=30zwcyrm2z2k)** > > Two five-story apartment buildings in the Greenwich Village Historic District will be demolished to make way for a 213-foot-tall luxury condo tower. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/9/49a0dd7a203d52f1e66efc52be99c134e707bff7.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/f/ff8c76e80a7698b625f458901457d76b2da01e33.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/5/e562370e01b7a467dec5ca050094a7abe660be49.png) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/19 "2021-05-14T18:05:37Z")
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**Author:** ![DeSelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeSelby](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/DeSelby)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017/20 "2021-05-14T18:16:07Z")
Not a big RAMSA fan but I quite liked the first design with the crown inspired by Lutyens’ Tower Hill War Memorial. I’m sorry the NIMBYs killed that version. This approved version will be a nice fit for this site, though. [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-14-fifth-ave-241-ft-19-floors/4017.md?page=2)