# NEW YORK | 131-141 East 47th Street | 455 FT | 34 FLOORS

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**Category:** Completed\
**Created:** [November 19, 2014, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159 "2014-11-19T13:30:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vertical\_Gotham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/vertical_gotham/32/4525_2.png) [@Vertical\_Gotham](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Vertical_Gotham)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/21 "2016-12-21T17:08:02Z")

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Via DOB

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/8/e82c22326eac994863136d8ed1938f051289324d.jpeg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/28/f9/2028f96200a5948c3845073eba97af3a.jpg)

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**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/22 "2016-12-21T19:52:16Z")

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Nice find! Good height bump too.

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**Author:** ![nyc1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@nyc1](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/nyc1)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/23 "2016-12-21T21:59:38Z")

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This tower is nice, but too short. Should’ve been at least more than 850 feet tall.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/24 "2016-12-21T23:55:41Z")

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Nice find, VG

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/25 "2016-12-22T00:48:21Z")

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Snapped this off zoning pdf: Click to zoom.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/0/090c359b81350e534747ee31a577d21ab06ec3e3.jpg)

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/6/658059ebc5fef97fce3a933d3ef7f4ab9e70abae.jpg)

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/26 "2016-12-22T00:50:35Z")

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Changed the title to reflect the diagrams: NEW YORK | 131-141 East 47th Street | 652 FT | 49 FLOORS

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/27 "2016-12-22T01:52:01Z")

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Nice find , Chris

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/28 "2017-01-07T03:15:11Z")

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Jan 5

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/e/e0673be131cc5289e83852fb291471fe1e767dbd.JPG)

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**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/29 "2017-01-29T01:29:26Z")

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The site is now clear.

1/28

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/30 "2017-01-29T02:27:37Z")

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Great update, JC!

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/31 "2017-02-23T01:33:59Z")

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2/22

This horrible Roger Smith Hotel on Lex must go.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/a/a32d7b017d5fd75e6723b77f4ef044dbe27b33b8.JPG)

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/32 "2017-03-06T22:44:24Z")

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Nothing just yet.

[https://s24.postimg.org/6h9uraxh1/IMG\_00001973.jpg](https://s24.postimg.org/6h9uraxh1/IMG_00001973.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/33 "2017-09-05T00:56:19Z")

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earlier today

 ![IMG_5475](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/6/76d143b3aa11d0f147c8eb2c8c05ef051513998e.JPG)

 ![IMG_5473](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/b/cbf866a753ab7b511662d013fed78e97f6728d6c.JPG)

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**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/34 "2018-07-20T21:37:21Z")

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I’ve not seen this rendering before, though the abscence of the new building next door suggests its an older one. Either way, it seems like this project might not proceed soon.

> **[Town Residential | Bentley Zhao | 131 East 47th Street](https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2018/07/20/town-sues-entities-tied-to-new-empire-over-unpaid-fees-at-turtle-bay-condo/)**
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> Town New Development is suing entities tied to New Empire Real Estate Development, claiming Bentley Zhao's firm stiffed the brokerage out of $210,000 in consulting fees and a $2.2 million termination fee.

> Town’s 2016 sales exclusive with New Empire stipulated that the developer would pay Town a $10,000 monthly consulting fee, as well as 2.5 percent commission on the sale of each unit, according to court documents. The agreement stipulated that if New Empire terminated Town, it would pay a 0.75 percent termination fee — or $2.18 million based on the projected $290.8 million sellout.
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> According to Town, the developer has refused to pay the termination fee, and owes it $210,000 for consulting work.

> Town New Development is a vestige of Town Residential, the eight-year-old residential firm, which shut its sales and leasing operation in April. Founder and CEO Andrew Heiberger has said the traditional brokerage model is unsustainable in an era of high commission payouts and heightened competition.

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/4/6400f8143ffd524aaa2e5f812880c71895525bab.jpeg)

the other rendering:

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/35 "2019-12-19T17:48:41Z")

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Looks like the site is back in the development spot light. Some hope.

Will result in a smaller tower than previously planned with the prior entity, but still better than nothing.

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**Hong Kong Developer Drops $115M on Stalled Manhattan Site**

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> As many foreign investors shun New York, one Hong Kong firm is making a big play at a stalled development site in Manhattan.
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> **Hopson Development Holdings dropped $115 million on a stalled development site in Midtown, records filed with the city Thursday show. The developer plans to raise a 34-story tower, according to an announcement filed to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, which noted New York City’s status as a global financial center and its ballooning population as rationale for the investment.**
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> The planned development will have approximately 183,310 square feet, according to the announcement, with a total investment of $225,000,000, including the purchase price.
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> **The previous owner, Bentley Zhao’s New Empire Real Estate Development, paid $81 million for the site at 131-141 East 47th Street in 2015, and soon demolished four existing buildings to make way for a planned 49-story tower. A year later, it adjusted its plans down from a 138-unit tower to a 122-unit tower.**
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> […]
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> Now, Hopson Development plans to erect a 34-story tower with 200 units at the site, according to an announcement the company made to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, first reported by Chinese news site Mingtiandi.

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/36 "2019-12-19T17:50:14Z")

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Changed title to reflect 34 floors with new entity.

This was 581 FT and 49 floors but now 34 floors and height remains unknown. I’ll check DOB shortly.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/37 "2020-06-22T11:49:59Z")

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[https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/silverback-development-build-500-foot-tall-condo-tower-131-east-47th-street/44801](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/silverback-development-build-500-foot-tall-condo-tower-131-east-47th-street/44801)

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/38 "2020-06-22T11:54:37Z")

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Aren’t those the old, taller designs? Is there a rendering for what will rise?

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/39 "2020-06-24T11:54:47Z")

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The new renderings have not yet been publicly released.

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**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-131-141-east-47th-street-455-ft-34-floors/1159/40 "2020-10-16T15:30:27Z")

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back on, apparently.

> **[Silverback breaks ground for new midtown condo | Real Estate Weekly](https://rew-online.com/silverback-breaks-ground-for-new-midtown-condo/)**
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> Silverback is partnering with Chinese developer Hopson Development Holdings on the luxury condo at 131 East 47thStreet.

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