# NEW YORK | 124-125 White St (Manhattan Jail) | 335 FT | 29 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Under Construction\ **Created:** [August 6, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477 "2018-08-06T21:37:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scott\_Preston](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/scott_preston/32/131378_2.png) [@Scott\_Preston](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Scott_Preston)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/22 "2023-08-28T04:25:30Z")
Calling that a rendering would be too much of a compliment for whoever made that for The Guardian. The height, the absurdly exaggerated shadow, and askew perspective of the roof makes it look so juvenile. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/23 "2024-03-13T11:49:21Z")
> **[Chinatown residents concerned over demolition at jail site after cracks found...](https://abc7ny.com/chinatown-jail-site-demolition-building-stability-rikers-island/14517608/)** > > One building owner showed Eyewitness News reporter CeFaan Kim an exterior concrete wall with cinder blocks popping out of place. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/24 "2024-04-03T16:12:03Z")
> **[Anger in Chinatown Over a Huge Jail Project: ‘We Are the Dumping Ground’](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/nyregion/jail-construction-chinatown-manhattan.html)** > > The demolition of a Manhattan jail complex to make way for a bigger one has damaged a neighboring building and raised concerns about years of dust and disruption. ---
**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/25 "2024-04-03T20:55:24Z")
Who are these crazies? They’re really angry about a jail replacing a jail? One that has stood there for centuries? There was a jail on this site 100 years before Chinatown. ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/26 "2024-04-03T22:22:34Z")
It will also have a lower detainee population and retail at the base. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/27 "2024-04-07T19:58:36Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/c/5c33c02075370a04859b8e49a3a7715c3044f19f.jpeg) > > **[Chilling plan for world’s tallest PRISON in NYC dubbed the ‘Jailscraper’](https://www.the-sun.com/news/10988287/worlds-tallest-prison-forty-floors-new-york-city/)** > > CHILLING plans have been made for the world’s tallest prison where 1,000 prisoners will be stacked across a 40-floor tower. Dubbed the “Jailscraper”, the high-rise slammer will be… ---
**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/28 "2024-04-07T23:48:05Z")
LOL. Russian bot-level links. Those articles and rendering are all comical fakenews. No rendering has been released and the building will be no wider or taller than the adjacent jail structure, even though it’s being depicted as like 3x the height and width. ---
**Author:** ![yesinmybackyard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/71e660/32.png) [@yesinmybackyard](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/yesinmybackyard)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/29 "2024-04-11T15:14:48Z")
retail at the base is very funny to me for some reason. needed, but funny lol ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/30 "2024-08-26T14:50:43Z")
> **[Demolition Wraps Up For Manhattan Detention Complex At 124-125 White Street...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2024/08/demolition-wraps-up-for-future-manhattan-detention-complex-at-124-125-white-street-in-chinatown-manhattan.html)** > > Demolition is nearing completion at the Manhattan Detention Complex, aka The Tombs, for a future mega-jail at 124-125 White Street in Chinatown. Photo by Michael Young ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/0/b09e384d3fead6b43b5b7537ee3aa21281ecc1ce.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/31 "2024-09-29T13:10:34Z")
> **[Tribeca Citizen | The jails on White and Centre are just about gone](https://tribecacitizen.com/2024/09/24/the-jails-on-white-and-centre-are-just-about-gone/)** > > The Manhattan Detention Complex — two 19-story jails — have been demolished to make way for a 30-story jail. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/32 "2024-11-21T04:05:29Z")
> **[Rikers Island Shutdown Plan Progresses With Construction Firms for New...](https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/11/19/rikers-plan-progress-construction-firms-manhattan-jail/)** > > The selection of Tutor Perini and O & G Industries to design and build the White Street lockup represents a final piece in the borough-jails puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![ophizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e36b37/32.png) [@ophizer](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ophizer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/33 "2024-11-23T17:54:19Z")
how many affordable units will this have? ---
**Author:** ![Blubbering\_Cactus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/blubbering_cactus/32/19342_2.png) [@Blubbering\_Cactus](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Blubbering_Cactus)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/34 "2024-11-23T21:02:28Z")
100% (It’s a jail) ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/35 "2024-11-23T21:45:48Z")
not very affordable for the city: ![Screenshot 2024-11-23 at 4.45.27 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/a/daef01ebd879388a004abb3b17c2096c4907337f.png) > **[‘It’s a revolving door’: Cost of incarcerating one person in N.Y.C. more than...](https://theblueprint902.substack.com/p/its-a-revolving-door-cost-of-incarcerating)** > > "You don’t need to be a political economist to come to the very obvious conclusion that paying $1,500 a person to incarcerate someone is probably not the most economical solution to public safety." ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/36 "2024-11-24T15:10:57Z")
Jail, like drug rehab and homeless services is a racket. ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/37 "2025-01-19T21:12:49Z")
![Screenshot 2025-01-19 at 4.11.59 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/8/c84ec50032b2d5a724981eb84f3280ccd0f2b9ad.jpeg) ![Screenshot 2025-01-19 at 4.14.45 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/7/c7c1b9e39c2ab5c1236daf2fd6d2ae8de95c3ff4.jpeg) > **[An exclusive first look at the Manhattan jail building design](https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2025/01/18/rikers-manhattan-jail-contract)** > > The contract could cost the city more than $3.7 billion. ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/38 "2025-01-29T02:11:33Z")
more renderings [here](https://www.6sqft.com/first-look-at-chinatowns-new-16-story-jail/) - looks good ![manhattan-detention-center-renderings-1.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/8/a8493fc9d9a55c0d5380a84a01489a9a538d89d2.jpeg) and a video: https://player.vimeo.com/video/1008830165?h=d81a942cf8&dnt=1&app_id=122963 ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:58am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/39 "2025-06-05T05:58:28Z")
> **[Chinatown residents propose new location for Manhattan jail in Rikers’...](https://amsterdamnews.com/news/2025/06/05/chinatown-residents-propose-new-location-for-manahattan-jail/)** > > have long protested against the borough-based jail planned in the neighborhood but now propose moving construction. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/40 "2025-11-13T14:39:40Z")
> **[Preliminary Plans Shown for Chinatown Jail, New Pedestrian Plaza | Tribeca...](https://www.tribecatrib.com/content/preliminary-plans-shown-chinatown-jail-new-pedestrian-plaza)** ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/2/f28e63b91928f770a781754ae7ca96ace0bee08a.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/d/9d4c3c9716c7b9a92686f7fc06d293b0f923c5ca.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/9/4919a7758cb07ef39680abb2e287206099530361.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/f/3f2f5d89042861e80eea04c067c54563aab85412.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/dior/32/164097_2.png) [@Dior](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Dior)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477/41 "2025-11-13T16:32:33Z")
never thought we would have public space integrated with a jail but here we are [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-124-125-white-st-manhattan-jail-335-ft-29-floors/4477.md?page=3)