# NEW YORK | 10 West 57th Street | 672 FT | 52 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Proposed\ **Created:** [July 5, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708 "2017-07-05T14:25:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/21 "2018-04-20T14:50:35Z")
The should put one next to So Low’s Hamptons mansion. ---
**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/22 "2018-04-20T14:51:22Z")
I don’t think Related has any assemblages along W.57. That site you’re referring to is owned by Steve Roth (Vornado) who always takes forever to make up his mind re. development. He’ll put up a tower, eventually. I am OK with Solow developing this block. His buildings are usually high quality, and the existing buildings, while nice, are anonymous and there are thousands of similar bldgs. But I want a supertall. I’ll be pissed if this ends up being a 700 ft. box. ---
**Author:** ![josh85](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/josh85/32/136595_2.png) [@josh85](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/josh85)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/23 "2018-04-20T14:54:25Z")
Because homeless shelters normally are only open during sleep hours, and therefore dump all of their residents onto the street during the day with nowhere to go. If you put them in tourist areas it starts to impact their industry, as has been demonstrated already in Los Angeles (though they’ve rebounded lately), Anaheim, and San Francisco. There are other places in the borough where the impact would be substantially less, and would cost less to operate them. > **[Travel association blames homeless crisis for stalling San Francisco tourism](https://sf.curbed.com/2018/2/23/17046028/travel-association-tourism-homeless-trump)** > > Political upheaval also to blame, says SF Travel, as international visitors less attracted to U.S. > But the main problem is complaints about the city’s homeless and street hygiene problems. ---
**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/24 "2018-04-20T15:15:06Z")
There are already tons of homeless shelters in Midtown, for decades now, and I’m not aware of the tourist industry being negatively impacted. Midtown is bursting with tourists. NYC isn’t SF, and we don’t have a remotely similar homeless situation. Our crappy winter weather, more professional police, and better homeless city agency, keeps the problem in check (at least compared to SF). ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/25 "2018-04-20T15:22:46Z")
You’re right. I meant the site that Vornado owns with Lefrak. 57th’s charm is gone. Once the shmuck razed those buildings, it will be Just like any street that could be in Houston. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/26 "2018-04-20T15:33:38Z")
> **[Solow Realty and Development | 12 West 57th Street](https://therealdeal.com/2018/04/20/solow-files-plans-for-57th-street-mixed-use-tower/)** > > After several years of assembling sites and wrangling with tenants in court, Solow Realty and Development has filed plans for a 52-story mixed-use skyscraper on West 57th Street. PIG!!! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/c/ac94f2788608521e4b333aaaccbb7409f25faa9d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/27 "2018-04-20T16:04:59Z")
Interesting that the article claims SOM will be designing the building. It’s clearly a shame that the beauties presently on the site will disappear. But SOM is capable of designing a good building. They don’t always do good work but they are not automated square box folks. Maybe they will give us a good one. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/28 "2018-04-20T19:21:54Z")
I wouldn’t want to lose those buildings for something like One57, and yet, I am confident that we won’t get anything remotely like that. This will basically be a flat-topped glass box. ---
**Author:** ![josh85](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/josh85/32/136595_2.png) [@josh85](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/josh85)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/29 "2018-04-20T22:37:59Z")
Here’s his other recent 57th street venture. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/8/28fdef8e23df63c9c6d7e8988b0f294fee6ec490.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![colrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/colrain/32/38661_2.png) [@colrain](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/colrain)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/30 "2018-04-20T22:39:23Z")
SOM is capable of building an office tower. That’s about it. ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/31 "2018-04-20T22:55:08Z")
SOM has actually already designed a billionaire’s row tower at 252 E 57th. That turned out pretty well. The Baccarat on 53rd isn’t bad either. Solow is the unknown factor here, he might want another glassy black box. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/a/8a7d5a4bec434664432639dfec6689ce0eb11f27.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/2/3209f2f4385fd97e9279583069bc481f1aa30715.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/32 "2018-04-20T23:33:20Z")
This will be a travesty. Anything for a shekel. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/d/fd37311aa01d61b8b83a9c7bd6c6b69cafaf453a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Tectonic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tectonic/32/186763_2.png) [@Tectonic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Tectonic)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/33 "2018-04-21T03:10:37Z")
Always the nicer buildings. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/34 "2018-07-03T10:44:18Z")
> **[‘Billionaires’ Row’ residents sue city to block homeless shelter](https://nypost.com/2018/07/02/billionaires-row-residents-sue-city-to-block-homeless-shelter/)** > > Residents of Manhattan’s “Billionaires’ Row” filed a lawsuit against the city on Monday in an attempt to stop a homeless shelter opening in their Midtown neighborhood. The West 58th Street Co… ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/35 "2018-07-03T22:36:49Z")
Union Square has a lot of crazy and sketchy folks. But I know what your talking about with the folks there. Wasn’t too long ago that I witnessed a guy fondle himself on a Saturday night out at Herald Square. There frikin small kids nearby and the ahole is fondling himself. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/36 "2018-07-03T22:51:37Z")
NY has way more insane, high homeless than any other city that I’m aware of. ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_Sandoval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/dennis_sandoval/32/79318_2.png) [@Dennis\_Sandoval](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Dennis_Sandoval)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/37 "2018-07-03T23:13:59Z")
last year i got buzzed at my hotel then walked around the city late at night! it was insane! those crazy people sure calm down if you offer them a cigarette. ---
**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/39 "2018-07-04T02:15:49Z")
You need to visit SF, LA, Portland, Seattle or Philly. All have a vastly higher proportion of street people. NYC, for a huge city, has relatively few visible homeless. ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/41 "2018-11-05T17:41:41Z")
> **[Deals clear for big Midtown building projects](https://nypost.com/2018/11/05/deals-clear-for-big-midtown-building-projects/)** > > Powerful developers just took control of properties they needed to build long-in-coming mega-projects on two different blocks between Fifth and Sixth avenues. Gary Barnett’s Extell Development Comp… > Sheldon Solow finally booted Metropolitan Antiques from 10 W. 57th St. The schlocky store, which plead guilty to illegally selling $4.5 million in elephant ivory, was the last holdout tenant to stand in Solow’s way to build a 52-story hotel, condos and retail Tower. > > The conviction gave Solow the right to evict the store. Metropolitan fought back in court but the shop quietly vanished in the past week. > > Solow’s new building will go up across the street from his iconic office tower 9 West and from an apartment Tower he’s putting up at 7 W. 57th ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-10-west-57th-street-672-ft-52-floors/3708/42 "2018-11-06T00:50:05Z")
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