# NEW YORK | 1 Park Row | 305 FT | 23 FLOORS

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010>\
**Category:** Completed\
**Created:** [October 23, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010 "2017-10-23T11:43:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/183 "2024-06-29T17:17:58Z")

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Metal (aluminum) cladding has the capability with modern technology of now having the appearance of natural finishes, like wood and stone to a very fine degree. Again, this is just an instance of the Architect choosing a material over a different material, especially if cost wasnt a factor/issue. Even in the past metal was used over stone (like all the existing cast iron buildings in the city that look like brick and stone)

Outer shell material isn’t really factored into insulation values anymore, the actual insulation chosen (rockwool/mineral wool, XPS, EPS, figerglass, etc) is what is used to calculate insulation values. In this case and the most typically used in applications of a rainscreen facade, they are just rockwool battens.

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/184 "2024-06-29T19:29:02Z")

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Even though it may been confirmed, I have high doubts that this is natural stone, it’s more likely than not cast stone or even GFRC. Natural stone would absolutely never be used in an application where it will be hollowed/carved out (wasted) and left thin in such a shape/profile as it would be prone to cracking.

I finally went out to see this closer, and you can see air bubble at the corners and even small fibers coming out of the ends, which would be an indication of GFRC, but cast stone isn’t out of the question. It is not real/natural stone though. Both of them, being a cementitious mix, mimic natural stone extremely well though.

 ![DSC07754](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/4/64837720e2ce887951cbfc7da5d4a5af3797ca8f.jpeg)  
 ![DSC07755](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/c/fca72b84baba1b28c9a845c785b90c9dacbb3b9c.jpeg)  
 ![DSC07756](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/b/6b90b4fb6735d5749f783024fce06a1a0305ec62.jpeg)  
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 ![DSC07759](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/b/0b8df8f973b73b4b41f82064df86c9b38f8ff65a.jpeg)  
 ![DSC07760](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/a/8af563d44ea501c7cc3d9ddbab86c11f7a1125b3.jpeg)

Regardless of what it is though, this will be a nice addition to Park Row when its done. It’s fairly discreet, but the simplicity in lack of ornamentation is nice.

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**Author:** ![treebeard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/treebeard/32/173534_2.png) [@treebeard](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/treebeard)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/185 "2024-07-01T14:17:57Z")

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She did mention matching the other buildings as a factorr in the choice.

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**Author:** ![treebeard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/treebeard/32/173534_2.png) [@treebeard](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/treebeard)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/186 "2024-07-09T18:18:00Z")

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![20240708_165347](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/6/a61a417537b39f7615ee8ab4cbc662fb28bf6113.jpeg)  
I hope we see the curtain wall soon

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/187 "2024-07-10T13:35:48Z")

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Extra points for treebeard contributing during this heat spell. ♨

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/188 "2024-07-11T01:31:54Z")

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It appears that they are just trying to finish waterproofing the structure first before continuing to install any insulation and the eventual cladding.

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**Author:** ![treebeard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/treebeard/32/173534_2.png) [@treebeard](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/treebeard)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/189 "2024-07-12T02:01:58Z")

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Today. Cladding beginning?

 ![2024-07-11 19.23.42](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/8/f8a5ec5a5694da4bfe0d57986f9445181199d1c8.jpeg)  
sorry about the sun

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/190 "2024-07-12T03:28:59Z")

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Anywhere you see the black waterproofing and/or the mineralwool insulation its safe to assume cladding will be installed shortly after, as is the case with the region of the building you’ve taken a shot of 👍🏻otherwise the majority of the building seems to be lacking both those 2 crucial elements.

But that right most side of the building seems to have all of its waterproofing on.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/191 "2024-07-20T21:10:48Z")

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![2024-07-19 18.16.29](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/d/2deaa701c2d3cb369584101aa9b989fb47ee191a.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/192 "2024-07-26T02:05:51Z")

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![IMG_6226](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/d/8d8019eaa11a376a3186f64cc51b0338c57f841b.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_6225](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/1/a16a35f0c2d82f0dc52b265d83e8878098d507e1.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/194 "2024-07-30T04:12:28Z")

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today

 ![20240729_163717](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/5/057e83118c5be906ab5bc15cb98cd19d1878a4b2.jpeg)  
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**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/195 "2024-08-13T01:06:58Z")

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![20240812_164308](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/d/5d81efee760ce6c1d99d52a9e3160dd31af1225e.jpeg)  
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**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 8:52am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/196 "2024-08-30T08:52:23Z")

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![2024-08-29 18.11.58](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/c/fc9aacdb3240d19b6ca091b6c16cfe6b66b12f1f.jpeg)  
 ![2024-08-29 18.12.41](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/8/d8f076832b72a7074a7bb43a8e24db6ed0401f04.jpeg)  
 ![2024-08-29 18.10.34](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/2/f280950da68da4010c4148546819c850c346d6bb.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/197 "2024-08-30T13:28:52Z")

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Always love to see lots of panels waiting to be put up, thanks for all your frequent updating!

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/198 "2024-08-30T14:46:15Z")

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treebeard delivers!

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/199 "2024-09-01T18:59:50Z")

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Progress as of 8/31/24

 ![IMG_1635](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/d/4d14d9b70f2eb3b0965c47c84fbcae0bf4ca67b4.jpeg)  
Close-up of the cladding:  
 ![IMG_1642](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/1/e12abb9b0ec62dff3803ac876f20e48289851416.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/200 "2024-09-07T02:53:38Z")

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Looks like more for the curtain wall to me

 ![20240906_182252](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/c/2cdeeb3397c4fe122f86efb456352e2e66630a38.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/201 "2024-09-13T05:31:30Z")

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latest

 ![2024-09-12 18.53.40](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/2/325c297a0c50e80d3580e8afeacefa48b117c3d8.jpeg)  
 ![2024-09-12 18.55.00](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/0/b023763db713fd78346ea28b30c84c54036012a8.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/202 "2024-10-12T03:09:19Z")

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10/10/24 I saw 3 crates today - not there yesterday. I’m looking forward to seeing them start on the Park Row side

 ![2024-10-11 17.36.10](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/0/70ad099c022efee1f56ae1e6783dd1a591b5a0da.jpeg)  
 ![2024-10-11 17.36.41](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/7/1799246f3760f7cc9d62baed7ac2044e4ca69e4c.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-1-park-row-305-ft-23-floors/4010/203 "2024-10-14T04:31:02Z")

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I missed this

 ![2024-10-13 16.51.46](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/8/085dbd5bca1c12ae594a053a1509888e5215b150.jpeg)  
. They have started on the park row side

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