# NASHVILLE | New Nissan Stadium **URL:** \ **Category:** meta\ **Created:** [October 18, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981 "2022-10-18T10:36:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/1 "2022-10-18T10:36:35Z")
> > **[Titans, Mayor Cooper announce agreement to build new $2.1B stadium](https://www.newschannel5.com/news/on-the-rise/titans-mayor-cooper-announce-agreement-to-build-new-2-1b-stadium-taking-taxpayers-out-of-the-bill)** > > A long-awaited decision about Nissan Stadium has finally been made: The Titans are getting a new home. ---
**Author:** ![Dtuly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Dtuly](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Dtuly)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/2 "2022-10-18T12:39:27Z")
This has SO much potential! The stadium is already in a great location compared to other modern stadiums. Still disappointed they never passed Let’s Move Nashville, it would’ve made this a great example of an urbanist stadium for the US. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/3 "2022-10-27T00:42:15Z")
> **[Tennessee Titans unveil renderings of new stadium in Nashville](https://www.archpaper.com/2022/10/tennessee-titans-unveil-renderings-new-stadium-nashville-east-bank/)** > > Proposed designs for the new Tennessee Titans stadium show a translucent roof and wraparound terraces and porches. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/f/cf8a2c76c6778a6c3ae64e402fcb591ec90e56e9.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/3/c3910a0dad21757d46f58ca910331081766716c4.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/0/903de1073b06a30634bf984639466e10f6f27568.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/4 "2022-10-27T01:56:17Z")
Continuing the trend of new stadiums being amazing ---
**Author:** ![MarshallKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/marshallknight/32/40545_2.png) [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/5 "2022-10-27T15:02:22Z")
I like the activation of the exterior with patios and retail, but I have to admit this thing looks like a Westfield mall. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/6 "2022-11-06T22:18:41Z")
[https://www.manicaarchitecture.com/page/tennessee-stadium](https://www.manicaarchitecture.com/page/tennessee-stadium) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/8/e8c293f02602e77055f4f88afbb5e15c86bba568.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/b/bb25961b5cb8aad96dc0a2bb9a6db7ee242477c2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/7 "2022-11-06T23:22:03Z")
Side note, as much as I love this stadium design and the overall masterplan, the subsidies this project is getting are vomit inducing. Hopefully it’s for a lot more than just the stadium. ---
**Author:** ![Dtuly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Dtuly](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Dtuly)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/8 "2022-11-07T00:41:35Z")
That is one of the hardest pills to swallow for this new wave of stadiums across the US. What I don’t really understand is the ownership of the stadiums following construction. Why wouldn’t the municipalities just be joint owners instead of handing over the stadiums to billionaires like Amy Strunk, Hearst, and Disney… Can someone ELI5? ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/9 "2022-11-10T00:11:12Z")
[https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/11/09/manica-architecture-tennessee-titans-new-stadium.html](https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/11/09/manica-architecture-tennessee-titans-new-stadium.html) ---
**Author:** ![GentriVacation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/gentrivacation/32/8324_2.png) [@GentriVacation](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GentriVacation)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/10 "2022-11-10T14:19:38Z")
The short answer is property/land value. New stadiums nowadays are almost always built in a part of the city where land values are (relatively) low and prime for inducing a “rent gap.” In other words, the stadium is a catalyst for gentrifying a neighborhood that will result in a ton of complementary development and new tax revenue to the city. Therefore, the municipal government is willing to subsidize a stadium with no revenue from the team itself because they’ll make MORE than enough back in new up-scale condo taxes. Edit: Also, these “stadium districts” tend to also be tourist destinations, so tons of tourist dollars. ---
**Author:** ![MarshallKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/marshallknight/32/40545_2.png) [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/11 "2022-11-10T16:44:14Z")
Except those assumptions about tax revenue have been widely discredited. Studies and Econ experts have concluded that the tax-capture arguments for large stadium subsidies are at best magical thinking, and at worst a scam on taxpayers. > **[Sports Stadium Subsidies: Fair or Foul?](https://better-cities.org/economic-prosperity/sports-stadium-subsidies-fair-or-foul/amp/)** > > The longer you spend in local government, the more likely it becomes that you’ll have to deal with one of The major exception seems to be Las Vegas, which has a unique and efficient mode for value capture: hotels and casinos catering to the throngs of out-of-town fans. You’ll notice that nobody’s trying to build condos next to Allegiant, because stadiums have little to no effect on adjoining property values. ---
**Author:** ![GentriVacation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/gentrivacation/32/8324_2.png) [@GentriVacation](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GentriVacation)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/12 "2022-11-16T23:59:28Z")
I completely agree that stadiums are an albatross for economic development. Sports, Jobs, & Taxes is a great book that’s considered one of the first comprehensive studies of this and the article you linked makes a lot of the same points. What I’m saying is – Modern municipal governments know a stadium (by itself) won’t bring in money, but a **Stadium District** is a gentrification machine that has the potential to: 1. Transform a neighborhood (the city govt can be seen as re-investing in their urban core) 2. Make a developer very rich from charging insane prices for downtown condos. That’s the trend now. _Districts_ like [this](https://www.denvergov.org/Government/Agencies-Departments-Offices/Agencies-Departments-Offices-Directory/Community-Planning-and-Development/Planning/Neighborhood-Planning/Stadium-District-Master-Plan-Implementation), or [this](https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9766974,-93.2594459,3a,90y,217.66h,100t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1soKesxM4NWSebS7Ca2N08Gw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DoKesxM4NWSebS7Ca2N08Gw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D278.1446%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en), or [this](https://www.thestadiumdistrict.com/)…are how sports teams are selling this to cities. And (I think) it’s “successful” at raising land values like crazy. However, that doesn’t mean I think it’s the right thing to do. I’m also not against urban stadiums, but I agree with you that they aren’t the clear-cut benefit they’re sold as. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/13 "2022-11-17T14:41:25Z")
> **[Nashville Chamber of Commerce announces support of new Titans stadium](https://www.wsmv.com/2022/11/16/nashville-chamber-commerce-announces-support-new-titans-stadium/)** > > The Nashville Chamber announced it supports a new, domed stadium. ---
**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/14 "2022-11-30T22:39:50Z")
[https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/11/10/east-bank-truck-stop-rmr-group-travelcenters.html](https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/11/10/east-bank-truck-stop-rmr-group-travelcenters.html) [https://station-east.com/#leasing](https://station-east.com/#leasing) > **[New Tennessee Titans Stadium Tax Fund to Collect $2.9B](https://frontofficesports.com/new-tennessee-titans-stadium-tax-fund-to-collect-2-9b/)** > > A new Tennessee Titans stadium tax fund is scheduled to pay for Nashville revenue bonds on the proposed $2.1 billion stadium. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/15 "2022-12-04T18:53:15Z")
„ The terms backed by Metro Sports Authority on Monday include: - General development goals: A $2.1 billion stadium campus flanked by two 20-acre “stadium village” commercial districts on existing parking lots east of Nissan Stadium, which will be demolished when construction finishes. - A rough financing agreement: Metro Nashville will retain ownership of the stadium land and another now-undeveloped 100 acres around it, while the Titans take over maintenance of the facility. - Construction loans: Metro will contribute $760 million via a 30-year revenue bond that will be repaid with future sales taxes; the state will pay $500 million; and the Titans will fund the largest share — $840 million plus any cost overruns. - Maintenance, capital upgrades and insurance: The Titans will take over stadium maintenance, insurance and all capital upgrades. The team will also forgive roughly $32 million owed by Metro for necessary maintenance and pay the remaining $30 million bond for Nissan Stadium’s construction 23 years ago. - Community partnerships: Tennessee State University will have more access to the stadium for big games; CMA Fest revenues will still be split between Metro and the Titans; and Metro can hold five rent-free events at the stadium. Separately, community partnerships for education, training and discounts are being negotiated. - The Sports Authority will provide 2,000 on-site parking spaces.“ [https://eu.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2022/12/01/nashville-stadium-key-vote-furthers-deal-with-tennessee-titans/69691788007/](https://eu.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2022/12/01/nashville-stadium-key-vote-furthers-deal-with-tennessee-titans/69691788007/) ---
**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/16 "2023-03-10T12:00:56Z")
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**Author:** ![Gollum1959](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f19dbf/32.png) [@Gollum1959](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Gollum1959)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/17 "2023-04-17T12:38:41Z")
Right now, the Metro Council have deferred the vote. The next meeting will be tomorrow. 4/18/23 [Metro Council defers Titans stadium vote | Metro government | nashvillepost.com](https://www.nashvillepost.com/politics/metro/metro-council-defers-titans-stadium-vote/article_1c1017f6-d3ad-11ed-9201-ff58c01c756b.html) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/18 "2023-04-26T12:10:22Z")
> **[In a historic vote, Metro Council decides to fund the new Titans stadium](https://www.newschannel5.com/news/in-a-historic-vote-metro-council-decides-to-fund-the-new-titans-stadium)** > > After hours of public hearing, the Metro Council voted to approve the measures to build a new Tennessee Titans stadium. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/19 "2023-05-21T18:13:31Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/4/54517e63724c453af7bcb3e84d347659f57842b4.jpeg) “But it is happening. In 2027, those doors open for Titans football and other events.” > **[Titans President and CEO Burke Nihill Discusses What's Next for New Stadium,...](https://www.tennesseetitans.com/news/titans-president-and-ceo-burke-nihill-discusses-what-s-next-for-new-stadium-whic)** > > On Thursday, the Titans announced TVS will serve as Architect of Record (AOR) on the new stadium project team after the Metropolitan Sports Authority approved the selection at its board meeting. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981/20 "2023-07-21T18:24:29Z")
> **[Nashville Sports Authority unanimously greenlights $760M bonds for new NFL...](https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2023/07/20/nashville-sports-authority-greenlights-760-million-bonds-for-new-nfl-stadium/70439091007/)** > > The Metropolitan Sports Authority made the final vote to release a series of revenue bonds totaling $760 million for a new enclosed NFL stadium. [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nashville-new-nissan-stadium/21981.md?page=2)