# LONDON | Development Discussion

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261>\
**Category:** London\
**Created:** [January 5, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261 "2017-01-05T12:58:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lamtheSTIG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/lamthestig/32/2206_2.png) [@lamtheSTIG](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/lamtheSTIG)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/1 "2017-01-05T12:58:29Z")

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This thread is dedicated to the general summary and updates of Londons projects and proposals including public transport and infrasture news.

Larger projects will be linked to their individual thread for more indepth information, whereas smaller projects and news updates will be found here.

#52 Lime Street | The Scalpel | 192M | 630FT | 39 FLOORS

**Height** - 192m / 630ft

**Floors** - 39

**Cost** - £500million

**Space** - 414,900 Sqft / 38,545 Sqm

**Use** - Commercial

**Architects** - Kohn Pederson Fox

**Developer** - WRBC Development UK Ltd

**Website** - [http://thescalpelec3.co.uk/](http://thescalpelec3.co.uk/)

**Expected Completion** - Late 2017

[![](http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q378/IzaakSabo1/1_zpskau7wqfr.png)](http://s349.photobucket.com/user/IzaakSabo1/media/1_zpskau7wqfr.png.html)

[http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-52-lime-street-the-scalpel-192m-630ft-39-floors/3231](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-52-lime-street-the-scalpel-192m-630ft-39-floors/3231)

#One Nine Elms | 200M + 161M | 656FT + 528 FT | 58 + 43 FLOORS

**Cost** - £900 Million

**Height** - 200m + 161m / 656ft + 528ft

**Use** - Residential and Hotel

**Developer** - Wander Group

**Architects** - KPF

**Website** - [http://www.onenineelms.com/2](http://www.onenineelms.com/2)

**Expected Completion - 2019**

[![](http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j55/Izaak_Sabo/5_zpscwduvuqd.png)](http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Izaak_Sabo/media/5_zpscwduvuqd.png.html)

[http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-one-nine-elms-200m-161m-656ft-528-ft-58-43-floors/3037](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-one-nine-elms-200m-161m-656ft-528-ft-58-43-floors/3037)

#60-70 St Mary Axe | The Can of Ham | 90M | 295FT | 18 FLOORS

[http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-60-70-st-mary-axe-aka-the-can-of-ham-90-meters-18-floors/3260/4](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-60-70-st-mary-axe-aka-the-can-of-ham-90-meters-18-floors/3260/4)

#1 Undershaft | 290M | 951ft | 73 FLOORS

**Height** - 290m / 951ft

**Floors** - 73 floors

**Space** - 414,900 Sqft / 130,000 Sqm

**Use** - Commercial

**Architects** - Eric Parry

[![](http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q378/IzaakSabo1/12_zps3tiit3lg.jpg)](http://s349.photobucket.com/user/IzaakSabo1/media/12_zps3tiit3lg.jpg.html)

[http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-1-undershaft-290m-951ft-73-floors/1686](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-1-undershaft-290m-951ft-73-floors/1686)

#100 Bishopsgate | 172M | 564FT | 38 FLOORS

**Height** - 172m / 564ft

**Use** - Commercial Office

**Space** - 944,800 Sqft / 87,775 Sqm

**Developer** - Brookfield

**Architects** - Allies and Morrison Woods Bagot

**Website** - [http://www.100bishopsgate.com/](http://www.100bishopsgate.com/)

**Expected Completion** - 2018

[![](http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q378/IzaakSabo1/1_zpszjj1zosa.png)](http://s349.photobucket.com/user/IzaakSabo1/media/1_zpszjj1zosa.png.html)

[http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-100-bishopsgate-172m-564ft-38-floors/3043](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-100-bishopsgate-172m-564ft-38-floors/3043)

#One Blackfriars | The Boomerang | 163M | 535FT | 52 FLOORS

**Height** - 163m / 535ft

**Use** - Residential

**Developer** - St George PLC and Berkeley Group

**Architects** - SimpsonHaugh and Partners

**Website** - [http://www.berkeleygroup.co.uk/new-homes/london/southwark/one-blackfriars2](http://www.berkeleygroup.co.uk/new-homes/london/southwark/one-blackfriars2)

**Expected Completion** - 2018

[![](http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j55/Izaak_Sabo/1_zpswb1pr1c3.png)](http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Izaak_Sabo/media/1_zpswb1pr1c3.png.html)

[http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-one-blackfriars-the-boomerang-163m-535ft-52-floors/3010](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-one-blackfriars-the-boomerang-163m-535ft-52-floors/3010)

The next London thread will be quite a beefy building.

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**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/2 "2017-01-05T14:48:50Z")

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Thanks, Stig.

Did you ever post London photos?

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**Author:** ![Brooklyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/brooklyn/32/16158_2.png) [@Brooklyn](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Brooklyn)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/3 "2017-01-05T16:53:42Z")

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London is getting a whole bunch of beautiful towers! I wish newyork can get some more of these…

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**Author:** ![Vertical\_Gotham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/vertical_gotham/32/4525_2.png) [@Vertical\_Gotham](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Vertical_Gotham)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/4 "2017-01-05T17:00:04Z")

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London’s Skyline is growing!!

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**Author:** ![lamtheSTIG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/lamthestig/32/2206_2.png) [@lamtheSTIG](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/lamtheSTIG)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/5 "2017-01-05T20:04:54Z")

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I have indeed! I’ve posted construction photos on all of the London threads we currently have as per the below. Photos from London will be a never ending stream as I visit there quite a few times a year 🙂

**The Scalpel**

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/1/9124293a789f3d11bf6dce79abc75b0830ccaa73.jpeg)](http://s349.photobucket.com/user/IzaakSabo1/media/Final%20with%20watermark_zpsqkpw84sq.jpg.html)

**Dollar Bay**

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/b/0be8c34d27ddc3084dbb393317c3103014b93f4c.jpeg)](http://s349.photobucket.com/user/IzaakSabo1/media/1-2_zps7hk4sjdd.jpg.html)

**One Blackfriars**

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/6/3640579de74e360870e32fb1e97dee44ef6a45dd.jpeg)](http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Izaak_Sabo/media/large_zpsxcx5kfgx.jpg.html)

**Millwall Docks**

_Facing towards Canary Wharf Central with Baltimore Wharf to the right:_

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/5/c5cfb5164a1731f051075cffa0b6581570a9db72.jpeg)](http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Izaak_Sabo/media/FINAL%20WITH%20WATERMARK%20%20-%20medium%20file_zpsx4mhdpjk.jpg.html)

**Greenwich Park**

_You can see Baltimore Wharf along with the rest of Canary Wharf_

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/1/d16dd7375cf080f0f74ca2b58e7f5ae1abadca8a.jpeg)](http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Izaak_Sabo/media/Greenwich%20final%20without%20watermark_zpsd9qjlvvx.jpg.html)

**1 Undershaft**

_This site is currently home to the St Helens Tower_

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/3/2322887b4a0c6cb13c0c2350435f981df03f8711.jpeg)](http://s349.photobucket.com/user/IzaakSabo1/media/1-3_zps2vbwdg3q.jpg.html)

**One Nine Elms**

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/a/3a913872035263a7ccad8f3082e515e7b73a286c.jpeg)](http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Izaak_Sabo/media/One%20Nine%20Elms_zpsbh1tiugj.jpg.html)

**100 Bishopsgate**

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/a/da2f566ce9376e4d21d11823fa4edb6083b2edd5.jpeg)](http://s77.photobucket.com/user/Izaak_Sabo/media/IMG_9946_zpsxoz6uahy.jpg.html)

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/6 "2017-01-06T02:44:33Z")

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Great updates, Stig!

PS: can you make a London photo thread – not just of new buildings – but of older areas like Chelsea, Mayfair, etc?

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**Author:** ![lamtheSTIG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/lamthestig/32/2206_2.png) [@lamtheSTIG](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/lamtheSTIG)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/7 "2017-01-25T21:26:17Z")

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#LONDON | 22 Bishopsgate | 278M | 912FT | 62 FLOORS

**Height** - 278m / 912ft

**Floors** - 62

**Space** - 1,375,000 Sqft / 128,000 Sqm

**Use** - Commercial

**Architects** - PLP Architecture

**Developer** - Lipton Rogers + AXA Real Estate

**Expected Completion** - 2019

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/4/e47d77540dfa757aa1115f54f32bbade59841e5c.png)](http://s349.photobucket.com/user/IzaakSabo1/media/1_zpsdyyue3d2.png.html)

> [@LONDON | 22 Bishopsgate | 278M | 912FT | 62 FLOORS](http://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-22-bishopsgate-278m-912ft-62-floors/3271):
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> Height - 278m / 912ft Floors - 62 Space - 1,375,000 Sqft / 128,000 Sqm Use - Commercial Architects - PLP Architecture Developer - Lipton Rogers + AXA Real Estate Expected Completion - 2019 22 Bishopsgate will be one of the largest office developments to ever be constructed in both London and the United Kingdom. Despite the tower now rising, it is still unknown as to exactly what will be the finished product upon completion. The overall size of the building will barely change due to the se…

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/8 "2017-01-26T01:32:24Z")

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Great update, Stig!  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/d/d8912c983a1da7c1b7a223348f2080254fdb961d.GIF)

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/9 "2017-02-12T21:48:20Z")

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[https://www.instagram.com/p/BQa\_rf1Db3U/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BQa_rf1Db3U/)  
Constructing\_london: Bloomberg place

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/10 "2017-02-13T02:32:03Z")

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Gorgeous!

Aesthetically, London blows NY out of the water.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/11 "2017-02-13T02:47:09Z")

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agreed, the City will have the most futuristic looking skyline in a few years. It’s a shame about ‘The Pinnacle’ being downgraded to a massive slab however.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/12 "2017-02-13T02:52:55Z")

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To me, it’s not just about the skyscrapers. Overall, NY’s new towers are just as good, if not better than London’s.

However, In London, unlike NY, Everything is so well maintained, and shit gets redeveloped.

Just consider these hideous eyesores on NY’s most prestigious avenue. They would have been developed long ago in London, but in NY, they will be cancers on Fifth for years to come.

Also, NY refuses to embrace change for the better. As Janet Siddiq-Kahn noted, Fifth Ave should be reduced to two lanes for buses only and landscaped and pedestrianized. That great idea will never happen though.

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/e/e6f1aee7e76455dc860a07bbf0c17217669a7d21.JPG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/d/d7af04b166345fcf06b7db5c7ed15c36d22301a4.JPG)

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/9/9bc027bd66eda8841c850cdd84d721c7e72ee90a.JPG)

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I am stunned That this heinous pos is next to our greatest icon.

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/0/054051a48e7d183d04dea3acbdc07b2ee2b695d7.JPG)

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/13 "2017-02-14T19:00:54Z")

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That last pic made me lose my breath in disgust. How is it possible that something so ugly can be allowed to stand next to the esb. Its like having the queen of england wearing the crown jewels but there is just a shitstain on the side of the crown. What a shame. NYC is ripe redeveloping I hope to see the day that will happen.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/14 "2017-02-14T19:30:32Z")

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I agree, Robert. The POS next to the ESB is owned by an entity related to the Estate of Sol Goldman. Ironically, it can support a tower of around 250,000 sq feet (i.e., a 700-800’ hotel/resi). Thus, there’s incentive to develop it, yet the Estate just collects rent from the schlocky tenants.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/15 "2022-04-28T13:56:51Z")

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> **[Housing crisis sees skyscraper boom in outer London boroughs](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/housing-crisis-sees-skyscraper-boom-in-outer-london-boroughs/ar-AAWyzSl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1e6c90f3a114402ab3b74e7b738943c4)**
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> More than half of the tall buildings approved for construction in 2021 are located in outer London boroughs.

(The entirety of London is undergoing a boom)

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/16 "2022-04-28T15:14:39Z")

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A housing shortage actually leading to higher density development in areas that haven’t seen that before?? Go figure!

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/17 "2022-10-11T14:47:57Z")

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> **[Blackstone gets London HQ deal over the line in massive UK commitment](https://reactnews.com/article/blackstone-gets-london-hq-deal-over-the-line-in-massive-uk-commitment/)**
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> World’s largest asset manager provides welcome boost amid the chaos

[https://www.blackstone.com/news/press/blackstone-to-develop-new-expanded-headquarters-on-londons-iconic-berkeley-square/](https://www.blackstone.com/news/press/blackstone-to-develop-new-expanded-headquarters-on-londons-iconic-berkeley-square/)

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/18 "2022-10-15T00:51:06Z")

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> **[Luton Airport railway opening date delayed - ianVisits](https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/luton-airport-railway-opening-date-delayed-57916/)**
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> The opening date of a new automated railway link between London Luton Aiport and the mainline railway has been pushed back until sometime early next year. It had been due to open this year.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/19 "2023-02-24T18:03:19Z")

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> **[Luton Airport rail link to open in March | Railnews | Today's news for...](https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2023/02/24-luton-airport-rail-link-to.html)**
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> The delayed Luton DART line, a people mover connecting Luton Airport Parkway on the Midland Main Line with London Luton Airport, is expected to have a...

> **The delayed Luton DART line,** a people mover connecting Luton Airport Parkway on the Midland Main Line with London Luton Airport, is expected to have a ‘soft’ launch on 10 March, with full services set to follow ‘around the end of March’.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/london-development-discussion/3261/20 "2023-04-18T18:51:23Z")

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A potential extension of Docklands Light Rail to Thamesmead, with a new tunnel under the River Thames.

> **[TfL pushing on with DLR extension to Thamesmead](https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/tfl-pushing-on-with-dlr-extension-to-thamesmead-62033/)**
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> A feasibility study that could see the DLR extended to Thamesmead is nearing completion and is looking likely to recommend the project.

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