# JERSEY CITY | VYV South (444 Warren St) | FT | 35 FLOORS

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**Category:** Completed\
**Created:** [June 15, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295 "2014-06-15T00:39:29Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/41 "2017-04-30T21:14:10Z")

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So it looks like they’re stopping after a single tower for now? Too bad.

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**Author:** ![the726](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/the726/32/13225_2.png) [@the726](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/the726)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/42 "2017-06-02T18:01:35Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/b/6b5b1e3702bb58a932677a9f42ef535ece594c3d.jpg)

The construction elevator is out and most of the windows are in.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/43 "2017-07-07T21:15:14Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/d/ed14b923f6b97e6223b6d2ae3953dbd23ae0ea9b.jpg)  
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**Author:** ![the726](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/the726/32/13225_2.png) [@the726](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/the726)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/44 "2017-07-25T21:59:39Z")

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![Hudson-Exchange-West-phase-2-render-1068x794](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/c/6c50c1e9facf885171340d227625ff198caf5c0b.jpg)

> **[Forest City Seeks Approvals for Hudson Exchange West Phase II Tower | Jersey...](https://jerseydigs.com/jersey-city-development-hudson-exchange-phase-2/)**
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> The project, proposed for Marin Blvd, includes 432 residential units, 8,400 SF of retail space, and a plan to extend Warren Street.

Phase 2 approval is coming up at the August 15th council meeting. The site of phase 2 is steadily being cleared out, so I guess they’re just waiting on approvals now.

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**Author:** ![Kevin\_Dyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/kevin_dyer/32/15425_2.png) [@Kevin\_Dyer](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Kevin_Dyer)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/45 "2017-07-26T04:02:42Z")

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Love these buildings

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**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/46 "2017-07-28T02:15:55Z")

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Yup. When I walked past this yesterday they had expanded the fenced-off construction area and were in the process of knocking down some trees using an excavator instead of chainsaws (never seen that before, but it was quick and efficient!)

They’ve also built the curb and sidewalk for the Worth St extension in front of the new building.

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**Author:** ![the726](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/the726/32/13225_2.png) [@the726](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/the726)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/47 "2017-07-28T02:33:38Z")

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They’re really confident about getting the approvals soon haha. It’s such prime real estate, so I’m happy they’re getting this off the ground. The recreation of the street grid will also really help here.

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**Author:** ![the726](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/the726/32/13225_2.png) [@the726](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/the726)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/48 "2017-07-28T02:35:24Z")

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![QQA8yxeh](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/9/99addfc98d17fc4b6090011ea148df2392c2d54a.jpg) ![HS1yyrhh](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/a/eafa28312af46f1ae3a3f4169d4499f0bae74b6e.jpg)

The lighting looks really great!

Images by Oron Zchut on Skyscraper City forums: [JERSEY CITY | Hudson Exchange West (6 block development) | 12 Towers | U/C | Page 5 | SkyscraperCity Forum](http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=141378016&postcount=90)

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/49 "2017-08-02T19:09:41Z")

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This looked like a done deal, but NIMBYs may now mobilize against the amendments to Phase II. Basically Forest City wants an amendment to allow them to move the Phase II tower over by ten or twenty yards. The changes are barely noticeable and this site is pretty far away from any of the NIMBY’s residences, but NIMBYs gonna NIMBY.

[http://www.padnajc.org/harsimus-cove-sta-rdp-amendments-august-16th/](http://www.padnajc.org/harsimus-cove-sta-rdp-amendments-august-16th/)

[http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/BLOCKED-VIEWS\_Proposed-Changes-to-Existing-Building-Height-Map-2017-04-26.jpg](http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/BLOCKED-VIEWS_Proposed-Changes-to-Existing-Building-Height-Map-2017-04-26.jpg)

The first rendering is the currently allowed design:

[http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/CURRENT\_DESIGN-1.jpg](http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/CURRENT_DESIGN-1.jpg)

The second is the proposed change:

[http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/PROPOSED\_CHANGE-1.jpg](http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/PROPOSED_CHANGE-1.jpg)

[http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/East-View.jpg](http://www.padnajc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/East-View.jpg)

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/50 "2017-08-02T21:49:54Z")

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Thanks for all the info! The NIMBYS don’t have a solid case here. The views from the park won’t be blocked much by the addition to the 2nd tower. The view corridor is still mostly intact.  
That massing diagram makes the development look so massive! This is where the setback laws of Manhattan would be well applied lol. But it’s nice to see a masterplan of sorts. I might make a massing diagram of my own, to see its scale amongst the skyline.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/51 "2017-08-03T00:06:04Z")

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Agreed! Keep in mind that the massing diagrams are maximum building envelope, but practically speaking the buildings are much smaller than the envelopes. For instance, the envelope allows 60 stories for the phase I and II towers, but there only going to be 35 stories. Also they’re set back a bit on the Warren St side from what the envelope allows

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/52 "2017-08-03T01:25:23Z")

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Will Phase 2 potentially have the 60 floor towers? It would be nice to have some real height here.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/53 "2017-08-03T13:36:26Z")

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Phase 2 will just be the 35 story tower you see on the right hand side in the renderings.

Future phases may have taller towers, but I don’t think even the developer knows what they’re going to do yet for sure.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/54 "2017-08-27T05:27:37Z")

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![IMG_20170825_124113](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/7/57de06080bdb232b0d40d7806a26a16c20ebff9c.jpg)  
 ![IMG_20170825_124115](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/c/ac2747e966896fcb8db9b9e2270949fa6787d85c.jpg)

Finishing touches on the retail base

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/55 "2017-09-16T03:41:20Z")

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![IMG_20170915_145409](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/d/7d616b07c826ceb2153f8282a1cd42a66fb25dff.jpg)

Putting up scaffolding for phase 2. The site is clearing out for pre-construction phase, but not too sure about that.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/56 "2017-09-23T15:51:34Z")

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![IMG_20170922_144300](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/8/78aa2b85f90f4c8d9f107d81262b037660151675.jpg)

The tree lined “plaza” in front of the building. The sales office is already up and running and the street is also opened.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/57 "2017-11-09T23:18:11Z")

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Apparently they are naming this one VYV?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/0/7044631bde38db7c73d4f272a1692f025499862d.jpg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/2/f2f045f203f5c9d85648c272deb3cb743cdbd360.jpg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/e/fe644bd2e1847c07647201c59a775bb596f286c0.jpg)

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/58 "2017-11-19T22:01:04Z")

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Yesterday, from Provost sq.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/5/d51e1f8ac770cd1a83c9943b79aa56f4e59869ca.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/59 "2018-02-15T09:55:13Z")

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I found a bunch of renderings that were [posted](https://www.padnajc.org/category/development-construction/) by members of the Powerhouse Arts District Neighborhood Association.

From what I read, I think the redesign of the next tower was **approved**. I wonder when construction will start. I think when this is all finished, it’s going to look amazing!

 ![Four](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/8/58954a8d93fef620cef9f3d2dd273a010c3579c5.JPG) ![One](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/9/a924ed8a208216c1183da12b477e78eaec4095a1.JPG) ![Three](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/f/cffc4d366f5199d3bc0d0d905dc7bd3a6e5910de.JPG) ![Two](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/7/9795c183d8c49df997cfc28244dabdc6a8184732.JPG)

Note in this photo the proposed San Remo tower next to the Double-Tree Hotel. Haven’t heard any news on that one in awhile.

 ![Five](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/b/6b8a0eb19839b9bf77c47a394d87d47f2ae248b2.JPG)

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-vyv-south-444-warren-st-ft-35-floors/295/60 "2018-04-25T15:35:32Z")

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> **[Affordable housing expansion in Downtown Jersey City hits snag](https://www.nj.com/hudson/2018/04/affordable_housing_expansion_in_downtown_jersey_ci.html)**
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> Developers who had intended to build a tower with 20 percent affordable units now say they cannot.

Developer wants to start construction in May, but lets see what happens with that city council vote.

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