# JERSEY CITY | 242 Hudson St (Harborside 8) | 719 FT | 68 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Under Construction\ **Created:** [October 2, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964 "2019-10-02T02:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 5:41am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/23 "2020-01-29T05:41:32Z")
Tuesday, February 4, 2020, sometime between 5:30 PM and 11 PM at 1 Jackson Square 2nd fl., Jersey City, New Jersey Sometimes items get pushed back to the next meeting. ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/24 "2020-02-11T02:52:20Z")
Planning Board’s vote postponed until Feb 21. Site 27 is Harborside 8. Site 22 is Harborside 9, which would be the subject of a future hearing and involve 1,325 units in two towers. Site 3 (rear) is the existing Lütze Biergarten. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/b/ab10961b055acc26884d73977ffb19149414c64a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mtoltethys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mtoltethys/32/30087_2.png) [@mtoltethys](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mtoltethys)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/25 "2020-03-05T16:43:15Z")
Approved, with groundbreaking this year > **[Jersey City Approves Mack-Cali's 68-Story Harborside 8 Development | Jersey Digs](https://jerseydigs.com/jersey-city-approves-mack-calis-68-story-harborside-8-development/)** > > A high-rise project totaling 680 residential units plus commercial space has been green lit by the Jersey City's planning board. ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/26 "2020-03-05T18:55:34Z")
Groundbreaking isn’t assured for this year. As late as November 2018 Mack Cali said that Harborside 8 would start in mid 2019. And that Urby would start in early 2019. So we shouldn’t take what Mack-Cali says as confirmation that they’re starting this year. It’s a target, but depends on a lot of factors. I’m not saying it won’t break ground this year, but I’m skeptical. ---
**Author:** ![the726](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/the726/32/13225_2.png) [@the726](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/the726)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/27 "2020-03-05T19:17:38Z")
![Screenshot_20200303-013823](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/b/7be7f37fc09ea1dc76c04ccc06c7e706dbea36b0.jpeg) @apophenic this was posted on the JC reddit recently. Looks like the lot is already closed, but still too early to tell if it’s connected to this. In the map he referenced, its Harborside 8. Interesting coincidence though lol. ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/28 "2020-03-05T19:32:49Z")
Thanks, that’s good news! Still, they closed off the parking lot for 500 Summit next to the PATH two years ago, and it’ still a rubble-strewn lot! The parking lot for 1 Journal Square has been closed for almost three years. But I really do hope this one will be different and they start this one soon. ---
**Author:** ![the726](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/the726/32/13225_2.png) [@the726](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/the726)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/29 "2020-03-05T19:45:37Z")
I’m still upset it’s still an empty lot and will be for the foreseeable future. Yes, I do hope this is different! ---
**Author:** ![mtoltethys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mtoltethys/32/30087_2.png) [@mtoltethys](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mtoltethys)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/30 "2020-03-05T19:48:08Z")
> Mack-Cali’s 2019 [4th Quarter Report](http://investors.mack-cali.com/Cache/IRCache/2fd5705b-6655-391b-3438-ea315299d2d7.PDF?O=PDF&T=&Y=&D=&FID=2fd5705b-6655-391b-3438-ea315299d2d7&iid=103187) stated that the company has targeted a 2020 groundbreaking timeline for construction. The development is listed as a “priority start” under its multi-family portfolio, although the company hasn’t made any formal announcement about the approvals or possible construction just yet. ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/31 "2020-03-05T21:07:18Z")
Urby Harborside II and Harborside 8 were both listed as “priority starts” with 2019 start dates in Mack-Cali’s 2018 3rd Quarter Report. (slide page 41) [http://investors.mack-cali.com/file/103187/Index?KeyFile=1001244892](http://investors.mack-cali.com/file/103187/Index?KeyFile=1001244892) Going back earlier Urby II was targeted for an Early 2019 start and Harborside 8 was targeted for a Mid 2019 start in their 2018 1st Quarter Report (slide page 41): [http://investors.mack-cali.com/file/103187/Index?KeyFile=1001236426](http://investors.mack-cali.com/file/103187/Index?KeyFile=1001236426) EDIT: Fixed the links ---
**Author:** ![Oreo\_Zchut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/53a042/32.png) [@Oreo\_Zchut](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Oreo_Zchut)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/32 "2020-03-06T16:09:43Z")
Took a few photos as evidence that the parking lot is indeed closed ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/a/dac5a7da79642d41dd9d4bf7f2c7641c8eb40c90.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/d/2d36e03277e89d2b22140b7d6c027ce146fe8630.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![the726](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/the726/32/13225_2.png) [@the726](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/the726)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/33 "2020-03-06T16:16:35Z")
Thanks! Yeah, that’s a definite sign of things to come. Great news ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/34 "2020-03-06T17:09:44Z")
Yeah, I am hopeful. That parking lot really brought down the whole area. By the way, I noticed the quarterly report links don’t work directly, so I edited. If they still don’t work anyone who’s interested can find all the quarterly reports here: [http://investors.mack-cali.com/quarterly-supplementals](http://investors.mack-cali.com/quarterly-supplementals) I’ve been following Mack-Cali’s reports for years and noticed a lot of timeline slippage, unfortunately. Would’ve been nice if they actually started this one 9 months ago like they originally said. Mack Cali does get it done eventually though! ---
**Author:** ![kpdjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a9a28c/32.png) [@kpdjc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/kpdjc)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/35 "2020-03-30T16:06:25Z")
Breaking ground today. ![20200330_harborside_8_9_groundbreaking](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/7/a7b978ebf74a881e6da687c9961c42aeca8f31bb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/36 "2020-03-30T16:55:51Z")
Awesome vantage point! Looks like it could be geotechnical/soil testing/test piles. If we see a lot more piles arrive on site in a couple of weeks, we’ll know it’s actual construction instead of just test piling. Fingers crossed! **UPDATE:** City’s website says no construction permit applications have been filed yet. But sometimes they start excavating before filing applications. ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/37 "2020-04-07T01:45:40Z")
Spoke to the foreman on site today. He said they are driving test piles, said “it’ll be a while before any real construction gets started.” they’ve driven about 15 test piles on site. Forgot to take my camera, sorry I don’t have pics. Hope this one isn’t derailed by the economic fallout of the pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![Oreo\_Zchut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/53a042/32.png) [@Oreo\_Zchut](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Oreo_Zchut)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/38 "2020-04-09T15:48:55Z")
Here’s a few from around a week ago. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/7/a7973d0dc780d64f508efd8e53f0c2312eb09c98.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/e/9e4f6bc7d6b2a4b7f71ba3735ea97d44117c1f3d.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/0/4063316308e3770104cadd54bbc66c6e0f2f569f.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/5/c535d86ff74fff7b4630a2e48b7e18d6c6103dd2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/39 "2020-04-09T16:30:59Z")
Aren’t the test piles the yellow beams shown in your pictures? ---
**Author:** ![Oreo\_Zchut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/53a042/32.png) [@Oreo\_Zchut](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Oreo_Zchut)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/40 "2020-04-09T16:33:33Z")
I guess I didn’t get much sleep last night… ---
**Author:** ![apophenic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@apophenic](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/apophenic)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/41 "2020-04-09T16:53:49Z")
🙂 Me neither. Crazy times we’re living in! ---
**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/jersey-city-242-hudson-st-harborside-8-719-ft-68-floors/15964/42 "2020-04-30T20:33:23Z")
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