# Discussion | Destroyed Buildings and Historical Buildings **URL:** \ **Category:** Discussion Topic\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277 "2021-01-13T18:44:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/1 "2021-01-13T18:44:32Z")
A thread about: Destroyed unforgettable buildings in New York, Phladelphia, Chicago and other US cities. Any mansion, low-rise, train station or skyscraper that has been demolished can be posted. If you have background knowledge, you can write this too. an example from Philadelphia: [](https://whyy.org/wp-content/uploads/planphilly/assets_6/http-planphilly-com-eyesonthestreet-wp-content-uploads-2012-10-2017-1920-broad-st-station-bwsm-jpg.original.jpg) Penn Station in Philadelphia I hope for active participation and discussion on a historical topic. ---
**Author:** ![daltontanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/daltontanner/32/29185_2.png) [@daltontanner](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/daltontanner)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/2 "2021-01-14T01:05:30Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/4/94b000c5b599b907d69b14c696218d6a319c5da6.jpeg) The St. Louis Area, the original home of the Blues. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/5/855f7cb6f0127a65877eee87d1b9a9b1e96048d4.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/f/5f6df3dc6a2ff156b6cb30a665e8b26a4dc33e82.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/1/01072b3c0ed58975033ecdb3506bc8b0b7166ab5.jpeg) The St. Louis Riverfront was a gorgeous neighborhood, but was eventually raised for the arch. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/8/b85574eaed0d352a21ddaddca0c22b7aa96ab5a2.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/1/8107ac1cae1e1cd8b27207260dca5792d7cc9afe.jpeg) The top photo is the Mill Creek Valley neighborhood in mid - town St Louis, the bottom photo is essentially the same neighborhood after urban renewal. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/3 "2021-01-15T20:12:13Z")
St. Louis ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/5/c5fc0e645d2c65723caa32e49e0da47f45c61b22.jpeg) Bank of Commerce Building ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/5/75ed5f7068053d58fcb5fe30ad8e0fb54fcd09b9.jpeg) Now the Veterans Administration Building circa 1970 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/a/5aa218d2f1883df7b811e6fbbd3e00681bd53d61.jpeg) Century Building before the demolition 2004 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/3/23b1e22b73385276a5f7cd16688706233c9e57da.jpeg) Holland Building demolished 1973 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/b/bb42311e9009aab4bc4a9c389054fdccd4b76348.jpeg) Grey = Extant historic buildings Blue = Altered historic buildings Red = Demolished historic buildings [https://www.builtstlouis.net/opos/downtown.html](https://www.builtstlouis.net/opos/downtown.html) ---
**Author:** ![daltontanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/daltontanner/32/29185_2.png) [@daltontanner](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/daltontanner)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/4 "2021-01-19T04:50:05Z")
Makes me so sad too see how much of this city they destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/5 "2021-01-19T20:26:59Z")
I agree with you, they were beautiful old buildings. What a shame that Century Building was destroyed in 2004, could it not have been preserved? [https://www.landmarks-stl.org/architecture/the\_century\_building/](https://www.landmarks-stl.org/architecture/the_century_building/) ---
**Author:** ![daltontanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/daltontanner/32/29185_2.png) [@daltontanner](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/daltontanner)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/6 "2021-01-20T20:36:15Z")
It should have been saved. If only they could of held out a few more years for the loft conversions to really take hold in downtown. Now it’s another parking garage. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/7 "2021-01-21T20:11:25Z")
The Century Building is a late loss to St. Louis. But I don’t think the parking garage looks that bad. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/1/c18bbeae0013258092b1284c133b8d82961ef721.jpeg) They shouldn’t have destroyed the building. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/7/a7297a874b399be0fa9d09f32f6fe2523917b578.jpeg) Similar look then and now ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/a/ca796d8dec9c91562ab3a0e0fe7b467fcc27e5d9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Skier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/skier/32/51464_2.png) [@Skier](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Skier)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/8 "2021-01-22T14:34:05Z")
Gosh, poor Saint Louis! All of those great buildings have been demolished, such a shame. And sadly the city isn’t seeing as much new development as they would like, so no new skyscrapers are being built. ---
**Author:** ![daltontanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/daltontanner/32/29185_2.png) [@daltontanner](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/daltontanner)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/9 "2021-01-22T21:28:54Z")
It doesn’t look that bad if you didn’t know what was previously there. But I’ve always hated the back side of the Sullivan Building. It’s such a bad contrast to classic American architecture to boring modern architecture. ---
**Author:** ![daltontanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/daltontanner/32/29185_2.png) [@daltontanner](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/daltontanner)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/10 "2021-01-22T21:37:10Z")
We’re actually in the biggest boom we’ve had in a long time. I’ve been thinking about starting a thread on St Louis development. There’s been a lot of new and upcoming developments that are slowly bringing the city back. ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/11 "2021-01-23T19:33:55Z")
Three old buildings in St. Louis ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/c/9cf06024c862bf5298b08a0dd8fc15063800e401.jpeg) Old Post office built 1873-1884 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/7/a776ef9b42bee137cb1092ccae4b76f3412aeb2d.jpeg) Syndicate Trust Building built 1907 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/b/1b46dc1a75c287b57d46a68bdd0ccb879ef26fd0.jpeg) [https://www.builtstlouis.net/syndicate2.html](https://www.builtstlouis.net/syndicate2.html) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/c/bcdc8a88918d0808b004851bcb0e0974c0257522.jpeg) Southwestern Bell Headquarters built: 1926 and a new Skyscraper ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/5/55214a44f2b292bef2167cab8204852d1b514e6b.jpeg) > **[100 Above the Park | Luxury Apartments St Louis | St Louis Apartments](https://liveat100.com/)** > > One Hundred Above the Park. Rising 36 stories above Forest Park, One Hundred will shape the cities’ skyline to the west. With its stunning design, luminous views, luxurious amenities, and prime location, One Hundred offers a living experience like... ---
**Author:** ![Skier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/skier/32/51464_2.png) [@Skier](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Skier)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/12 "2021-01-24T12:48:16Z")
Ah okay, that’s really good to hear! I’m rooting for you all, Philadelphia was in a very similar place not long ago ---
**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/13 "2021-02-11T00:18:03Z")
Old Broad Street Station in Philadelphia destroyed 1953. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/c/4c96128789256f20fdcc75d17a740ede9c6c9b67.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/2/a2b135fc858bdbacccab41d24d5b63171c4e4b54.jpeg) > **[Broad Street Train Station, Philadelphia Pennsylvania](http://www.historic-structures.com/pa/philadelphia/broad_street_railroad_station.php)** > > The Broad Street Station in Philadelphia PA was demolished in 1953. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/0/705d9dde8aa012173d95cddae42fe246de1e7dcc.jpeg) 1931 > **[Race and exclusion in Philadelphia: Snapshots from the past 100 years -...](https://generocity.org/philly/2019/03/27/race-and-exclusion-in-philadelphia-snapshots-from-the-past-100-years/)** > > Guest columnists Eric Hartman and Stephanie Keene trace the 100-year history of exclusion and racism in Philadelphia, which they say explains today's poverty and life expectancy gaps. Part I of a two-part story. does anyone have color photos of the old Broad Street Station ? ---
**Author:** ![daltontanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/daltontanner/32/29185_2.png) [@daltontanner](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/daltontanner)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/14 "2021-02-11T01:35:13Z")
I was weirdly reading about this the other day, it’s a shame they tore it down. Plus the train shed was incredible until it burned down. ---
**Author:** ![rgarri4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/rgarri4/32/57140_2.png) [@rgarri4](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rgarri4)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/15 "2021-02-11T05:01:34Z")
My model depicting the Original WTC in todays/future skyline. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/d/cdd4bd813e52c9f1b4e531f76352be7ab1428af2.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/d/4d422952ab4d658f0fc9d0b2dd557e19bead21c5.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/b/db69c1f88669da65b4ba5bf097f12c2fb41cdef3.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/e/be1c92dfff0633d6d9363d790f26e6e6a2b3c2ab.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/d/8d600ceb88ce8ae9911fb8cc5653865d33546c2d.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/8/18de94db2b6f4ba5752da95d4701b981c66b6915.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/1/3167d40aaa16f407837a6fdd6eb2ba2f3f3ca2e3.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/a/eab328d77e9b8f7f0ce2f661c0d7381d0aeca1e0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NewYorkCity76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/newyorkcity76/32/190647_2.png) [@NewYorkCity76](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NewYorkCity76)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/16 "2021-02-11T06:40:23Z")
I’m curious. If the twin towers were still standing today, will the new developments such as 432 Park, Central Park Tower, and Hudson Yards be existing? ---
**Author:** ![Springboss123\_456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/springboss123_456/32/182744_2.png) [@Springboss123\_456](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Springboss123_456)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/17 "2021-02-11T12:55:58Z")
That’s an interesting question, if the twin towers were still standing I believe 30 Park Place would never of been been built because I think it’s whole point was to bring residential space and a hotel close to the modern WTC. But the WTC pre-9/11 already had a hotel so there would’ve been no point for 30 park place to be built. ---
**Author:** ![NewYorkCity76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/newyorkcity76/32/190647_2.png) [@NewYorkCity76](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NewYorkCity76)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/18 "2021-02-11T15:29:02Z")
Then I believe 56 Leonard street and 50 West Street wouldn’t be built at all as well, since they are also close to the modern WTC ---
**Author:** ![IhateUSsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ihateussteel/32/24981_2.png) [@IhateUSsteel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/IhateUSsteel)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/19 "2021-02-11T16:25:03Z")
Safe to say the Bankers Trust Building and Fiterman Hall would still be here, as would 4 Albany Street; if I remember right Deutsche Bank abandoned both of their buildings for demolition after they were damaged and contaminated on 9/11, and Fiterman Hall was being renovated before it was damaged beyond repair. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/4/2426a859a7f463c1cf6d4da40f521e42f21ac86f.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/1/9128848273e8a9f163efc4ae8eaa3a174f2bd7a4.jpeg) I usually attribute those buildings (50 West, 56 Leonard, etc.) to the New WTC or at least a post-9/11 boom in construction, so it’s hard to say whether they wouldn’t get built, or if they would get built anyways later on. It would be sweet if 50 West wasn’t built and we still had that old coppertop building. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/d/2deb02919cc0c2ee384c46d93bc6cf5b44a9dce7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DeSelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeSelby](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/DeSelby)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277/20 "2021-02-11T22:54:41Z")
> **[Leslie Robertson, Who Engineered the World Trade Center, Dies at 92...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/nyregion/leslie-robertson-dead.html)** > > He remained proud of the towers, which stood long enough for thousands to escape on 9/11, but carried with him “a troubled heart.” [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-destroyed-buildings-and-historical-buildings/18277.md?page=2)