# Discussion | Construction, Design and Architecture Style of Skyscraper

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**Created:** [February 21, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051 "2022-02-21T22:26:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/1 "2022-02-21T22:26:12Z")

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If you have ever wondered how a skyscraper is planned and built, you can ask your questions here.

[https://www.instagram.com/p/CZuF48yrLB2/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZuF48yrLB2/)  
How is a skyscraper built?  
How are column cross sections calculated?  
Wind load calculations and what types of wind bracing are there?

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**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/2 "2022-02-22T12:40:04Z")

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Why are we not building more ‘mass timber’ structures in USA. This is ‘better’ than structural steel, and concrete slab superstructure methods.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/9/991456b93262612c60767333e35e4c70c7ed059d.jpeg "Innovation in Mass Timber Construction") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h99kIHrULrg)

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/3 "2022-02-22T14:49:36Z")

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How is it “better” than either of those?

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**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/4 "2022-02-22T15:50:41Z")

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The look, feel, ease of assembly, renewable resource, lower cost, lower carbon emissions; among other reasons.

Oh, Thermo, seismic factors, superior insulation capabilities - and more…

The video posted goes into some more detail as to why this is better than structural steel frame, or reinforced concrete. I love this method.

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**Author:** ![DeSelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeSelby](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/DeSelby)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/5 "2022-02-22T16:50:12Z")

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Europe and Canada have already built some really interesting large-scale mass timber buildings. It’s only a matter of time before a mass timber skyscraper is built, there are already a few timber high-rises completed, and even taller ones are proposed. NYC recently legalized mass timber construction to a height of six stories or 85 feet, which is a start. Unfortunately red tape still keeps a lot of American cities behind the curve with cutting-edge construction technology like this.

[https://www.dezeen.com/2021/10/13/new-york-timber-buildings/](https://www.dezeen.com/2021/10/13/new-york-timber-buildings/)

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**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/6 "2022-02-22T17:20:21Z")

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> [@DeSelby](#):
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> NYC recently legalized mass timber construction to a height of six stories or 85 feet, which is a start.

That surprised me: my assumption was we don’t build like that because it is not legal/approved in NYC. I believe the “red tape” factor will keep this new building method out of NYC for some time to come. I is obvious that the steel industry, iron workers, and concrete construction interests have a strong incentive to keep this new method from gaining popularity.

The only practical question - given the current state of affairs - will be about the existing methods of construction. I often wonder why some buildings get built with a structural steel superstructure, and others of the same size/type get made with reinforced concrete.

They both make for a strong building superstructure; but one is eventually chosen over the other for some unknown reason. 😖

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**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/7 "2022-02-23T22:35:32Z")

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Timber skyscraper under construction in Milaukee

> **[Ascent](https://www.thorntontomasetti.com/project/ascent)**
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> The Ascent in Milwaukee is the tallest mass timber structure in the world.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/f/9f8fc65d52bf70be8b574fe70bd8798ac4b0c3b2.png)

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> **[Bird’s eye view: Ascent makes its ascent](https://biztimes.com/birds-eye-view-ascent-makes-its-ascent/)**
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> Ascent is a 25-story apartment building under construction at 700 E. Kilbourn Ave. in downtown Milwaukee. But it will be more than just another luxury

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**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/8 "2022-03-11T21:54:23Z")

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> **[Gap Detected Between SF’s Millennium Tower and Abbuting Building](https://therealdeal.com/sanfrancisco/2022/02/24/sfs-millennium-tower-has-yet-another-problem/)**
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> A 1-inch gap between the 58-story tower and a smaller 12-story structure has formed.

> **[The Millennium Tower is now sliding as it sinks (and tilts)](https://archinect.com/news/article/150300510/the-millennium-tower-is-now-sliding-as-it-sinks-and-tilts)**
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> It’s doing it (again). San Francisco’s Millennium Tower is on the move once more, this time in an entirely different dimension as the 13-year-old building is sliding while it sinks and tilts. Now the tower is said to be moving to the east,...

Why is the Millennium Tower in San Francisco sinking?

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/9 "2022-03-11T21:59:59Z")

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Is that an actual question or just an invite to read the articles?

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**Author:** ![bkhights](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@bkhights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bkhights)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/10 "2022-03-11T22:30:44Z")

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![IMG_6685](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/d/7de09150304cb72567d5d408755145840eb2e344.jpeg)  
Saw some really odd construction in Mexico.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/11 "2022-03-11T22:39:21Z")

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That, looks terrible. And extremely weak.

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**Author:** ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/12 "2022-03-11T23:28:39Z")

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You think that looks weak you should see their electrical grid. The local wires running between poles looks like someone threw a ton of spaghetti into the air. I was in Acapulco a few years ago and there was a power pole standing 3 feet into a road at a curve! crazy stuff. Thankfully the taxi driver knew it was there!

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**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/13 "2022-03-12T12:41:13Z")

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it’s just a question no more.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/14 "2022-03-12T16:06:37Z")

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Hmm, pretty sure this video explain it well.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/7/1712ba64cf5c4e4a66eb6451a339eeafc9f31fd1.jpeg "What Really Happened at the Millennium Tower?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph9O9yJoeZY)

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/15 "2022-06-23T15:06:39Z")

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> **[| Engineering News-Record](https://www.enr.com/gdpr-policy)**
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> ENR.com is the bible of the construction industry, providing news and features about projects, products and people in construction, architecture and engineering.

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/16 "2022-07-26T23:43:53Z")

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What is the maximum height of a megatall @TKDV ?

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/17 "2022-07-27T00:06:44Z")

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There is no maximum height as a megatall is the tallest criteria the CTBUH has specified for tall buildings as anything above 600m.

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/18 "2022-07-27T09:59:34Z")

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What is CTBUH?

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**Author:** ![Salva\_Orduna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/salva_orduna/32/81913_2.png) [@Salva\_Orduna](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Salva_Orduna)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/19 "2022-07-27T10:44:28Z")

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Council of Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat  
Kind of Skyscrapers Biblia headquartered in Chicago.

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/discussion-construction-design-and-architecture-style-of-skyscraper/21051/21 "2022-07-31T20:50:37Z")

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Considering this is a thread of how buildings are _built_ and not destroyed and topics involving the collapse of any of the towers at the WTC on 9/11 bring about jargon and a lot of unnecessary discussion, debate, and controversy, I won’t answer that question under discretion.

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