# “City of Yes” Massive Rezoning | 100,000U **URL:** \ **Category:** Proposed\ **Created:** [September 26, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937 "2024-09-26T12:02:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jaydayvis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@Jaydayvis](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Jaydayvis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/1 "2024-09-26T12:02:18Z")
> **[City Planning approves City of Yes — with changes](https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2024/09/25/city-planning-approves-city-of-yes-for-housing-opportunity/)** > > The City Planning Commission approved the City of Yes for Housing Opportunity with changes requested by the real estate industry. Expect tons of new housing development throughout the city. 100,000 units to be built. > **[Mayor Adams' signature 'City of Yes' housing plan passes key NYC commission](https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-signature-city-of-yes-housing-plan-passes-key-nyc-commission)** > > The key approval sets the landmark plan up for a fight in the City Council. ---
**Author:** ![GentriVacation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/gentrivacation/32/8324_2.png) [@GentriVacation](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GentriVacation)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/2 "2024-09-26T12:59:21Z")
This might be the most consequential legislation (next to congestion pricing) that could actually bring the city into the 21st century. Eliminating parking minimums, boosting densities with affordable components, and allowing ADU’s are how you take the handcuffs off of society and allow them to build affordable, sustainable, equitable communities. ---
**Author:** ![bkhights](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@bkhights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bkhights)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/3 "2024-09-26T13:15:19Z")
It’s all up in the air now after the indictment… ugh ---
**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/4 "2024-09-26T15:00:06Z")
Sound policy can still be used regardless of if he’s mayor or not. Hopefully the ball gets rolling and the next mayor prioritizes this and even more units if possible. ---
**Author:** ![TowerDude](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/towerdude/32/4284_2.png) [@TowerDude](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TowerDude)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/5 "2024-09-27T00:03:02Z")
Rents will not go down without state subsidy. Unless there is a mass exogenous shock to the market that would necessitate extensive undercutting, let’s say 2 million people left, no amount of building will noticeably depreciate rents. That being said expanding housing stock is a good endeavor, and should be carried out however possible. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/6 "2024-09-27T02:35:58Z")
> [@TowerDude](#): > > Rents will not go down without state subsidy. Unless there is a mass exogenous shock to the market that would necessitate extensive undercutting, let’s say 2 million people left, no amount of building will noticeably depreciate rents That’s just not true. ---
**Author:** ![bkhights](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@bkhights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bkhights)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/7 "2024-09-27T13:26:52Z")
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**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/8 "2024-09-27T14:36:53Z")
I think we need 100,000 units per year for the next ten years. This should be the goal. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/9 "2024-09-27T15:16:19Z")
> [@TowerDude](#): > > no amount of building will noticeably depreciate rents. I tend to agree with that claim. Take a look at the massive commercial vacancy rate in NYC post covid: there has been no ‘significant’ decrease in commercial rent compared to about 5 years ago when the supply was much (much) smaller. _The increase in ‘supply’ has NOT depreciated rents. So, I don’t for sure, but that simple fact does support your claim._ **Good observation…** 🤩 ---
**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/10 "2024-09-27T15:28:19Z")
That is simply a gross understatement, commercial real estate has different classes. Class b and c offices naturally have a higher vacancy rate because large companies want nicer spaces with modern amenities. I don’t think it’s fair to extrapolate what’s happening in the commercial space and saying that will be true in when it comes to residential. Simple economics are that when you increase supply, prices will drop. The issue at hand is what is that number that will start to drop the prices. While I think 100k is a great start I think we need much more ---
**Author:** ![bkhights](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@bkhights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bkhights)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/11 "2024-09-27T15:36:21Z")
Source - [Subscribe to read](https://www.ft.com/content/86836af4-6b52-49e8-a8f0-8aec6181dbc5) A very good read on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/12 "2024-09-27T19:33:02Z")
> [@bkhights](#): > > Source - [Subscribe to read](https://www.ft.com/content/86836af4-6b52-49e8-a8f0-8aec6181dbc5) > A very good read on the subject. [I archived the URL to skirt to paywall.](https://archive.ph/LtQFc) ---
**Author:** ![bkhights](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@bkhights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bkhights)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/13 "2024-09-27T19:44:32Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![TowerDude](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/towerdude/32/4284_2.png) [@TowerDude](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TowerDude)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/14 "2024-09-28T15:29:29Z")
I too used to hold Minneapolis as a success of the traditional supply housing model. However reality cared little for the ideology I held. It became apparent to me that the only places and tine where rents were low, were places and times where the state through; low interest financing (i.e. Mitchell-Lama), direct/indirect subsidy (grants for the construction of housing/tax breaks), or direct ownership (public housing) kept rents low. > **[Twin Cities rents are likely to rise as apartment construction stalls](https://archive.ph/02wOf)** > > archived 28 Sep 2024 15:16:18 UTC > **[Minneapolis average rent reaches record-high after 2.5% rise in April](https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-average-rent-reaches-record-high-after-2-5-rise-april)** > > Rent in Minneapolis rose to a record high in April, making it an outlier when the national average rent continues to drop. > **[Despite cooling prices for new leases, overall housing inflation could remain...](https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2024/despite-cooling-prices-for-new-leases-overall-housing-inflation-could-remain-elevated-into-2025)** > > We find a long lag between new leases and the overall cost of shelter in the consumer price index ---
**Author:** ![bkhights](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@bkhights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bkhights)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/city-of-yes-massive-rezoning-100-000u/23937/15 "2024-09-28T21:06:25Z")
I agree the government can build social housing, subsidize housing and enforce rent control – all of which can lower market rents as well by competing with market units. However, all due respect, aren’t these articles you posted actually making the case that the reason for increased housing cost is not enough new housing? Just pulling some quotes from the articles you posted here: Article one: (the title tells us that the twin cities construction boom is ending, leading to rent rises) and “There’s just not enough units of housing in general,” Hylton said, referring to both for sale and rental housing. “And those with lower incomes are the ones to lose out.” Article two: “The median asking rent for Austin, Texas in April was $1,494, which is down $195 (-11.5%) from its September 2022 peak… The decline was partly driven by an influx of new multi-family homes into the Southern market, which has helped to push Austin’s rental vacancy rate higher.” “By contrast, in parts of the Midwest, rents are climbing… Driving higher rents are below-average unemployment rates and the slow pace of new multi-home construction.” Article three is just about the effect of housing cost on CPI, so not understanding the relevance.