# Brutalism + Beauty = BEAUTALISM

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**Created:** [January 19, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326 "2023-01-19T19:54:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/42 "2025-02-23T07:09:08Z")

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[Here’s a paywall-bypassed link.](https://archive.ph/7rY5g)

If Trump can replace some of those rather unsightly government buildings with nicer facilities, that’ll probably be one of the extremely few things he’s done right.

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**Author:** ![SMCYB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/smcyb/32/71640_2.png) [@SMCYB](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/SMCYB)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/43 "2025-02-27T22:30:56Z")

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Hey, I agree with him on something.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/44 "2025-02-27T22:46:39Z")

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Just sayin’ -

> **[Fascist architecture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_architecture)**
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> Fascist architecture encompasses various stylistic trends in architecture developed by architects of fascist states, primarily in the early 20th century. Fascist architectural styles gained popularity in the late 1920s with the rise of modernism along with the ultranationalism associated with fascist governments in western Europe. Fascist styles often resemble that of ancient Rome, but can extend to modern aesthetics as well. Fascist-era buildings are frequently constructed with particular concer...

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**Author:** ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/45 "2025-03-02T02:57:51Z")

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Anyone laying odds that we get slot machines in all those facilities?

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/46 "2025-03-03T22:01:57Z")

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> **[Save the Roundhouse? A Case for Demolition](https://www.architecturalrecord.com/articles/17341-save-the-roundhouse-a-case-for-demolition)**
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> While preservationists endeavor to adapt and reuse Philadelphia’s former police headquarters, Diana Lind argues for a clean slate.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/47 "2025-03-04T15:42:25Z")

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2:20 time stamp -

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/d/ddf6bf2ab34540754c0baa850b2c7be03c508d18.jpeg "THE SAD DECLINE OF PHILADELPHIA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeWTJ1H8lIo)

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/48 "2025-03-05T03:51:40Z")

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Dartmouth, Massachusetts

> **[UMass Dartmouth’s $660 million problem: Preserving its brutalist campus](https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/03/03/umass-dartmouth-brutalism-campus-repairs)**
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> UMass Dartmouth's campus is one of America’s largest works of Brutalism. But parts of it are crumbling and some areas fail to meet modern standards of handicap accessibility.

This looks like a beautiful place to go to college.

Photos by Rhode Island PBS

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/5/f58b36dd888cd95e3c08742c89ea21b60427f572.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/50 "2025-03-05T14:43:33Z")

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Another Umass campus with lots of brutalist buildings - I was there last year and captures these pics - interesting and a bit dystopian.

uMass Amherst

 ![IMG_8241](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/f/1f5b72f364174554957c983b4298740cfce091ad.jpeg)  
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**Author:** ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/51 "2025-03-05T23:45:29Z")

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I would like to see more, especially the second building. I know I am in the minority but I like a lot of Brutilist architecture. At the very least one must admit that most is not boring.

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/52 "2025-03-05T23:54:08Z")

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Other than potentially cool vantages for photos, it looks like a prison and the interiors probably are devoid of natural light.

It seems a lot of universities have the misfortune of having ugly brutalist edifices for classrooms and other facilities.

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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/53 "2025-03-06T00:48:22Z")

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Agree - brutalist buildings look really cool in pictures - but, at least for me, they feel really oppressive in real life - they kinda sucked all the life around them.

I think a lot of northeastern colleges went from quaint and European to dystopian

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**Author:** ![5Bfilms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/5bfilms/32/173622_2.png) [@5Bfilms](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/5Bfilms)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/54 "2025-03-06T01:32:47Z")

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_They had a meeting about preserving it because the architecture being…you know it’s different_

Too bad, it looks like it would make a cool arts space but man, you would have to burn a LOT of Paolo Santo to cleanse this space.

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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/55 "2025-03-06T03:17:15Z")

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here are some cool pictures:  
[DEZEEN](https://www.dezeen.com/2019/04/16/business-innovation-hub-university-of-massachusetts-amherst-big-extension/)

 ![isenberg-school-of-management-big-architecture-amherst-massachusetts-usa-max-touhey_dezeen_2364_hero-1704x959](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/2/52e91c61b16c4973383f660c48248a87a565febc.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 7:26am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/56 "2025-03-06T07:26:37Z")

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Thanks Alemel. That copper building is a perfect example of BIG’s talent shining through on the smaller projects, skyscrapers, not so much. Obviously not Brutilist, but creative and exciting and I might say; architectural eye candy. Bravo to BIG.

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**Author:** ![SMCYB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/smcyb/32/71640_2.png) [@SMCYB](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/SMCYB)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/57 "2025-03-06T13:00:52Z")

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Exactly. BIG’s skyscrapers are lame, but this is cool as a large piece of sculpture.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/58 "2025-03-06T15:01:04Z")

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It’s exceptional. 👍

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**Author:** ![SMCYB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/smcyb/32/71640_2.png) [@SMCYB](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/SMCYB)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/59 "2025-03-06T17:21:38Z")

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Too bad it’s such an ugly building.

> **[Ireland’s oldest university names its first building after a woman. It only...](https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/06/style/eavan-boland-trinity-college-library-intl/index.html)**
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> Trinity College Dublin may have been founded by Queen Elizabeth I, but for over 400 years every building on the prestigious university campus has been named after a man.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/60 "2025-03-08T16:56:49Z")

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Et tu Brute?

 ![BCS_2025-03-07_GFX-040](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/b/8b82afb956c8f90088a25e2c99a05c0e929ba020.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/61 "2025-03-08T19:15:40Z")

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/brutalism-beauty-beautalism/22326/62 "2025-03-08T21:16:59Z")

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Maybe they have stopped building their own stores and instead renting existing existing empty space. There are certainly lots of places to rent for low rents right now.

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